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   VISnews 110923   
   23 Sep 11 08:05:16   
   
   Subject: VISnews 110923   
   Organization: VIS - Ufficio Stampa della Santa Sede   
   From: Vatican Information Service - Eng - txt    
      
   VATICAN INFORMATION SERVICE   
      
   TWENTY FIRST YEAR - N. 160   
   ENGLISH   
   FRIDAY, 23 SEPTEMBER 2011   
      
   SUMMARY OF THE POPE'S TRIP TO GERMANY: 22 - 23 SEPTEMBER   
      
   - Interview with the Pope on Flight Bound for Germany   
   - The Shared Foundations of Law   
   - Pope Underlines Church's Closeness to the Jewish People   
   - Whoever Believes in Christ Has a Future   
   - Fruitful Collaboration between Christians and Muslims   
   - Faith Thought Out and Lived Afresh Will Save Christianity   
   - Shared Ecumenical Task: Bearing Witness to the Living God   
      
   ___________________________________________________________   
      
   INTERVIEW WITH THE POPE ON FLIGHT BOUND FOR GERMANY   
      
   VATICAN CITY, 22 SEP 2011 (VIS) - This morning, as is traditional on his   
   apostolic trips abroad, Benedict XVI granted a brief interview to   
   journalists accompanying him on the flight to Germany.   
      
     The first question put to the Pope was: "How much do you still feel   
   yourself to be German, and in what aspects do your origins still influence   
   you?"   
      
     The Pope replied: "I was born in Germany and that root cannot and must not   
   be severed. I received my cultural formation in Germany, my native language   
   is German and language is the way in which the spirit lives and works. ...   
   The fact of my being German is a vital part of the cultural framework of my   
   life. My attachment to the country's history, with all its greatness and its   
   failings, cannot and must not be denied. As a Christian, however, another   
   question arises: through Baptism we are born anew, we are born into a new   
   people with includes all peoples. ... And when, in this people, we take on a   
   great responsibility, as I have done in taking on the supreme   
   responsibility, ... the root becomes a tree which extends in various   
   directions, and the fact of being at home in this great community ... of the   
   Catholic Church becomes ever more vibrant and profound, it moulds all of   
   existence without cancelling what went before".   
      
     The second question was: "Over recent years increasing numbers of people   
   have been leaving the Church in Germany, also as a result of acts of child   
   abuse committed by members of the clergy. What are your feelings about this?   
   What would you say to those who wish to leave the Church?"   
      
     "Let us first distinguish", said the Holy Father, "the specific   
   motivations of those who are horrified by the crimes that have recently come   
   to light. I can understand how, in the light of such information and   
   especially if close relatives are involved, one would say: 'This is no   
   longer my Church. For me the Church was a humanising and moral force. If   
   representatives of the Church do such wrong I can no longer live with this   
   Church". This is a specific situation. Generally speaking though, against   
   the background of a widespread secularisation of our society, there are many   
   reasons and the act of leaving is often only the last step people make in a   
   long process of distancing themselves from the Church. In this context, I   
   feel it is important to ask: 'Why am I in the Church?' ... In my view it is   
   vital to remember that being in the Church is not like being in some   
   association. It means being in the net of the Lord where He catches fish,   
   both good and bad, to draw them from the waters of death to the land of   
   life. It may be that, in this net, I find myself alongside the bad fish and   
   that I see only them, but it remains true that I am not there for them, I am   
   there because it is the net of the Lord. This is quite different from human   
   associations and touches the very foundation of our being. Speaking to these   
   people, I believe that we must delve to the bottom of the question of what   
   the Church is. ... Why am I in the Church even if there are scandals and   
   terrible human failings? In this way we will renew our awareness of the   
   specific nature of being Church, ... which is the People of God, and thus we   
   would learn ... to combat the scandals from within, from within the great   
   net of the Lord".   
      
   Fundamental unity with Evangelical Churches   
      
     Asked about groups which have opposed this and others of his apostolic   
   trips, Benedict XVI replied: "In the first place I would say it is normal   
   that, in a free society and in a period of secularisation, a papal visit   
   should meet with opposition and that such opposition should be expressed. It   
   is part of our freedom, and we must be aware that secularisation and   
   specific hostility to Catholicism is strong in our societies. When this   
   opposition is expressed civilly then we have nothing to say against it.   
      
     "However it is also true that many people have high expectations and a lot   
   of love for the Pope. ... There is great consensus around the Catholic   
   faith, and a growing conviction that we need a moral force, that we need the   
   presence of God in our time. And so I know that alongside the opposition,   
   which naturally exists, a lot of people are awaiting this feast of the faith   
   with joy. ... For this reason I am glad to go back to my native Germany, I   
   am happy to bring the message of Christ to my own land".   
      
     Finally Benedict XVI was asked about his expectations for his meeting with   
   members of the Evangelical Church. "When I accepted the invitation to make   
   this trip", he replied, "it was clear that ecumenism with our Evangelical   
   friends had to be a central theme. As I have said before, we live in   
   secularised times in which all Christians have the mission of making God's   
   message present to the fellows. ... Thus the fact that Catholics and   
   Evangelicals meet is fundamental for our time. And although we are not   
   perfectly united at the institutional level, although problems (even large   
   problems) persist, we are united in the fundamentals: faith in Christ and   
   the Triune God, and the fact that man was made in the image of God. At this   
   moment of history it is vital that we intensify this union.   
      
     "For this reason", the Pope added, "I am very grateful to our Protestant   
   brothers and sisters who have made it possible to hold this highly   
   significant meeting in the convent where Luther began his theological   
   journey, to pray ... and talk together about our responsibility as   
   Christians today. I am delighted to be able to express our fundamental unity   
   as brothers and sisters who work together for the good of humankind,   
   announcing the joyful message of Christ, of God Who has a human face and Who   
   speaks to us".   
   PV-GERMANY/                                                     VIS 20110923   
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   THE SHARED FOUNDATIONS OF LAW   
      
   VATICAN CITY, 22 SEP 2011 (VIS) - At 4.15 p.m. today the Holy Father   
   travelled from the apostolic nunciature in Berlin to the Reichstag where he   
   was welcomed by the president of the German Federal Parliament. He held a   
   brief meeting with the five chief office holders of the German State: the   
   president, the chancellor and the presidents of the Bundestag, the Bundesrat   
   and of the Federal Constitutional Court. He also greeted the leaders of the   
   various parliamentary groups. He was then accompanied to the hall of the   
   Reichstag where he listened to a speech by Norbert Lammert, president of the   
   Bundestag.   
      
     In his own address to the Parliament, Benedict XVI affirmed that politics   
   "must be a striving for justice, and hence it has to establish the   
   fundamental preconditions for peace. Naturally a politician will seek   
   success, as this is what opens up for him the possibility of effective   
   political action. Yet success is subordinated to the criterion of justice,   
   to the will to do what is right". Without this, "success can be seductive   
   and thus can open up the path towards the falsification of what is right,   
   towards the destruction of justice".   
      
     "We Germans know from our own experience that these words are no empty   
   spectre", said the Holy Father. "We have seen how power became divorced from   
   right, how power opposed right and crushed it, so that the State became an   
   instrument for destroying right - a highly organised band of robbers,   
   capable of threatening the whole world and driving it to the edge of the   
   abyss".   
      
     For this reason, "to serve right and to fight against the dominion of   
   wrong is and remains the fundamental task of the politician", especially   
   today. But, "how do we recognise what is right?" asked Pope Benedict. He   
   explained that "for the fundamental issues of law, in which the dignity of   
   man and of humanity is at stake, the majority principle is not enough. ...   
   This conviction was what motivated resistance movements to act against the   
   Nazi regime and other totalitarian regimes, thereby doing a great service to   
   justice and to humanity as a whole. For these people, it was indisputably   
   evident that the law in force was actually unlawful".   
      
   Restoring the cultural heritage of Europe   
      
     "In terms of the underlying anthropological issues, what is right and may   
   be given the force of law is in no way simply self-evident today", said the   
   Holy Father, recalling how, throughout history, "systems of law have almost   
   always been based on religion". However, "unlike other great religions,   
   Christianity has never proposed a revealed body of law to the State and to   
   society, that is to say a juridical order derived from revelation. Instead,   
   it has pointed to nature and reason as the true sources of law. ... For the   
   development of law and for the development of humanity, it was highly   
   significant that Christian theologians aligned themselves against the   
   religious law associated with polytheism and on the side of philosophy, and   
   that they acknowledged reason and nature in their inter-relation as the   
   universally valid source of law".   
      
     "This seemed to offer a clear explanation of the foundations of   
   legislation up to the time of the Enlightenment, up to the time of the   
   Declaration on Human Rights after World War II", however "there has been a   
   dramatic shift in the situation in the last half-century". Due to the   
   predominance of a positivist conception of nature and reason, "the idea of   
   natural law is today viewed as a specifically Catholic doctrine, not worth   
   bringing into discussion in a non-Catholic environment".   
      
     "A positivist conception of nature as purely functional ... is incapable   
   of producing any bridge to ethics and law. ... The same also applies to   
   reason, according to the positivist understanding which is widely held to be   
   the only genuinely scientific one. Anything that is not verifiable or   
   falsifiable, according to this understanding, does not belong to the realm   
   of reason. ... Hence ethics and religion must be assigned to the subjective   
   field. ... This is a dramatic situation which affects everyone, and on which   
   a public debate is necessary.   
      
     "The positivist approach to nature and reason", Pope Benedict added, "is a   
   most important dimension of human knowledge and capacity that we may in no   
   way dispense with". But, "where positivist reason considers itself the only   
   sufficient culture, ... it diminishes man, indeed it threatens his humanity.   
   I say this with Europe specifically in mind, where there are concerted   
   efforts to recognise only positivism as a common culture and a common basis   
   for law-making, so that all the other insights and values of our culture are   
   reduced to the level of subculture, with the result that Europe vis-a-vis   
   other world cultures is left in a state of 'culturelessness' and at the same   
   time extremist and radical movements emerge to fill the vacuum".   
      
     This is why it is so important for reason and nature to rediscover their   
   true greatness, and reassert themselves in their "true depth, with all its   
   demands, with all its directives", said the Pope. We must "listen to the   
   language of nature and we must answer accordingly", bearing in mind that   
   "man too has a nature that he must respect and that he cannot manipulate at   
   will. Man is not merely self-creating freedom. Man does not create himself.   
   He is intellect and will, but he is also nature, and his will is rightly   
   ordered if he listens to his nature, respects it and accepts himself for who   
   he is, as one who did not create himself. In this way, and in no other, is   
   true human freedom fulfilled".   
      
     "At this point Europe's cultural heritage ought to come to our assistance.   
   The conviction that there is a Creator God is what gave rise to the idea of   
   human rights, the idea of the equality of all people before the law, the   
   recognition of the inviolability of human dignity in every single person and   
   the awareness of people's responsibility for their actions.   
      
     "Our cultural memory is shaped by these rational insights. ... The culture   
   of Europe arose from the encounter between ... Israel's monotheism, the   
   philosophical reason of the Greeks and Roman law. ... In the awareness of   
   man's responsibility before God and in the acknowledgment of the inviolable   
   dignity of every single human person, it has established criteria of law: it   
   is these criteria that we are called to defend at this moment in our   
   history".   
      
     Having completed his address, Benedict XVI withdrew for a few moments   
   before meeting with members of the Jewish community.   
   PV-GERMANY/                                                     VIS 20110923   
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   POPE UNDERLINES CHURCH'S CLOSENESS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE   
      
   VATICAN CITY, 22 SEP 2011 (VIS) - At 5.15 p.m. today Benedict XVI met with   
   fifteen representatives of the German Jewish community, led by their   
   president, Dieter Graumann. In his remarks to them, the Pope recalled his   
   visit to the synagogue of Cologne on 19 August 2005, when Rabbi Teitelbaum   
   had spoken of memory "as one of the supporting pillars that are needed if a   
   future of peace is to be built".   
      
     "Today", said the Holy Father, "I find myself in a central place of   
   remembrance, the appalling remembrance that it was from here that the Shoah,   
   the annihilation of our Jewish fellow citizens in Europe, was planned and   
   organised. Before the Nazi terror, there were about half a million Jews   
   living in Germany, and they formed a stable component of German society.   
   After World War II, Germany was considered the 'Land of the Shoah', where it   
   had become virtually impossible to live. Initially there were hardly any   
   efforts to re-establish the old Jewish communities, even though Jewish   
   individuals and families were constantly arriving from the East. Many of   
   them wanted to emigrate and build a new life, especially in the United   
   States or Israel".   
      
     The Pope went on: "In this place, remembrance must also be made of the   
   'Kristallnacht' that took place from 9 to 10 November 1938. Only a few could   
   see the full extent of this act of contempt for humanity, like the Berlin   
   Cathedral Provost, Bernhard Lichtenberg, who cried out from the pulpit of   
   St. Hedwig's Cathedral: 'Outside, the Temple is burning - that too is the   
   house of God'. The Nazi reign of terror was based on a racist myth, part of   
   which was the rejection of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of   
   Jesus Christ and of all who believe in Him. The supposedly 'almighty' Adolf   
   Hitler was a pagan idol, who wanted to take the place of the biblical God,   
   the Creator and Father of all men. Refusal to heed this one God always makes   
   people heedless of human dignity as well. What man is capable of when he   
   rejects God, and what the face of a people can look like when it denies this   
   God, the terrible images from the concentration camps at the end of the war   
   showed".   
      
     The Holy Father went on to express his joy at the fact that, despite past   
   history, Jewish life is now blossoming in Germany and the community has made   
   great efforts to integrate Eastern European immigrants.   
      
     "The Church feels a great closeness to the Jewish people", he said. "With   
   the Vatican Council II Declaration 'Nostra Aetate', an 'irrevocable   
   commitment to pursue the path of dialogue, fraternity and friendship' was   
   made. This is true of the Catholic Church as a whole. ... Naturally it is   
   also true of the Catholic Church in Germany, which is conscious of its   
   particular responsibility in this regard". In this context the Pope   
   mentioned a number of initiatives to strengthen Jewish-Christian relations,   
   such as the "Week of Fraternity", the "Jews and Christians Forum" and the   
   "historic meeting for Jewish-Christian dialogue that took place in March   
   2006 with the participation of Cardinal Walter Kasper".   
      
     "We Christians must also become increasingly aware of our own inner   
   affinity with Judaism. For Christians, there can be no rupture in salvation   
   history. Salvation comes from the Jews. When Jesus' conflict with the   
   Judaism of His time is superficially interpreted as a breach with the Old   
   Covenant, it tends to be reduced to the idea of a liberation that views the   
   Torah merely as a slavish enactment of rituals and outward observances. In   
   fact, the Sermon on the Mount does not abolish the Mosaic Law, but reveals   
   its hidden possibilities and allows more radical demands to emerge. It   
   points us towards the deepest source of human action, the heart, where   
   choices are made between what is pure and what is impure, where faith, hope   
   and love blossom forth.   
      
     "The message of hope contained in the books of the Hebrew Bible and the   
   Christian Old Testament has been appropriated and continued in different   
   ways by Jews and Christians. 'After centuries of antagonism, we now see it   
   as our task to bring these two ways of rereading the biblical texts - the   
   Christian way and the Jewish way - into dialogue with one another, if we are   
   to understand God's will and His word aright'. This dialogue should serve to   
   strengthen our common hope in God in the midst of an increasingly   
   secularised society. Without this hope, society loses its humanity", the   
   Pope concluded.   
      
     Following his meeting with the Jewish community, the Pope travelled by car   
   to Berlin's Olympic stadium for the celebration of Mass.   
   PV-GERMANY/                                                     VIS 20110923   
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   WHOEVER BELIEVES IN CHRIST HAS A FUTURE   
      
   VATICAN CITY, 22 SEP 2011 (VIS) - At 6 p.m. today the Holy Father arrived by   
   car at Berlin's Olympic stadium to celebrate Mass with large numbers of   
   faithful who had gathered there from Germany and surrounding countries. In   
   the same stadium fifteen years ago, John Paul II had presided at the   
   beatification of Karl Leisner and Bernhard Lichtenberg.   
      
     In his homily, Benedict XVI commented on the parable of the vine shoots   
   taken from today's Gospel reading. When Jesus says "I am the vine, you are   
   the branches", what He means is that "I am you and you are I, an   
   unprecedented identification of the Lord with us, His Church. ... He   
   continues to live in His Church in this world. He is present among us, and   
   we are with him", said the Pope.   
      
     In this parable, Jesus says "my Father is the vine grower" who cuts off   
   the withered branches and prunes the fruit-bearing ones, so that they bring   
   forth more fruit. This means that God "wants to bestow new life upon us,   
   full of vitality. Christ came to call sinners. It is they who need the   
   doctor. ... Hence, as Vatican Council II expresses it, the Church is the   
   'universal Sacrament of salvation', existing for sinners in order to open up   
   to them the path of conversion, healing and life. That is the Church's true   
   and great mission, entrusted to her by Christ".   
      
   Reasons for disenchantment with the Church   
      
     The Holy Father continued: "Many people see only the outward form of the   
   Church. This makes the Church appear as merely one of the many organisations   
   within a democratic society, whose criteria and laws are then applied to the   
   task of evaluating and dealing with such a complex entity as the 'Church'.   
   If to this is added the sad experience that the Church contains both good   
   and bad fish, wheat and darnel, and if only these negative aspects are taken   
   into account, then the great and deep mystery of the Church is no longer   
   seen.   
      
     "It follows that belonging to the vine, to the Church, is no longer a   
   source of joy. Dissatisfaction and discontent begin to spread, when people's   
   superficial and mistaken notions of 'Church', their 'dream Church', fail to   
   materialise".   
      
     Later the Pope went on to explain how Jesus invites us to abide in Him.   
   "As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine,   
   neither can you, unless you abide in me ... If a man does not abide in me,   
   he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered,   
   thrown into the fire and burned".   
      
     "The decision that is required of us here makes us keenly aware of the   
   existential significance of our life choices. At the same time, the image of   
   the vine is a sign of hope and confidence. Christ Himself came into this   
   world through His incarnation, to be our root. Whatever hardship or drought   
   befall us, ... God can transform into love even the burdensome and   
   oppressive aspects of our lives. It is important that we 'abide' in Christ,   
   in the vine".   
      
     This is of particular importance in our own "era of restlessness and lack   
   of commitment, when so many people lose their way and their grounding, when   
   loving fidelity in marriage and friendship has become so fragile and   
   short-lived. ... The risen Lord gives us a place of refuge, a place of   
   light, hope and confidence, a place of rest and security. ... Future, life   
   and joy are to be found in Christ.   
      
     "To abide in Christ means to abide in the Church as well" the Pope added.   
   "The whole communion of the faithful has been firmly incorporated into the   
   vine, into Christ. ... Within this communion He supports us, and at the same   
   time all the members support one another. ... We do not believe alone, but   
   we believe with the whole Church.   
      
     "The Church, as the herald of God's word and dispenser of the Sacraments,   
   joins us to Christ, the true vine. ... The Church is God's most beautiful   
   gift. ... With and in the Church we may proclaim to all people that Christ   
   is the source of life, that He exists, that He is the one for Whom we long   
   so much. He gives himself. Whoever believes in Christ has a future. For God   
   ... wants what is fruitful and alive, He wants life in its fullness".   
      
     In closing the Holy Father expressed the hope that the faithful may   
   increasingly discover "the joy of being joined to Christ in the Church, that   
   you may find comfort and redemption in your time of need and that you may   
   increasingly become the precious wine of Christ's joy and love for this   
   world".   
      
     Following the Eucharistic celebration, Benedict XVI travelled back to the   
   apostolic nunciature by car, arriving at about 9 p.m.   
   PV-GERMANY/                                                     VIS 20110923   
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   FRUITFUL COLLABORATION BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS   
      
   VATICAN CITY, 23 SEP 2011 (VIS) - At the apostolic nunciature in Berlin at 9   
   a.m. today, the Holy Father met with representatives of the Muslim community   
   in Germany. Muslims in Germany number around 4.5 million; 70 percent of them   
   are of Turkish of origin while others come from Arab countries, the Balkans   
   and Iran.   
      
     In his remarks to the group the Pope recalled how "from the 1970s onwards,   
   the presence of numerous Muslim families has increasingly become a   
   distinguishing mark of this country". In this context he highlighted the   
   importance of constant effort, not only "for peaceful coexistence, but also   
   for the contribution that each can make towards building up the common good   
   in this society.   
      
     "Many Muslims attribute great importance to the religious dimension of   
   life", he added. "At times this is thought provocative in a society that   
   tends to marginalise religion or at most to assign it a place among the   
   individual's personal choices. The Catholic Church firmly advocates that due   
   recognition be given to the public dimension of religious adherence. In an   
   overwhelmingly pluralist society, this demand is not unimportant. Care must   
   be taken to guarantee that others are always treated with respect. Mutual   
   respect grows only on the basis of agreement on certain inalienable values   
   that are proper to human nature, in particular the inviolable dignity of   
   every single person".   
      
     The Holy Father went on: "In Germany - as in many other countries, not   
   only Western ones - this common frame of reference is articulated by the   
   Constitution, whose juridical content is binding on every citizen, whether   
   he belong to a faith community or not. Naturally, discussion over the best   
   formulation of principles like freedom of public worship is vast and   
   open-ended, yet it is significant that the Basic Law expresses them in a way   
   that is still valid today at a distance of over sixty years".   
      
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