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   Message 134 of 382   
   Michiel van der Vlist to Rob Swindell   
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   06 Mar 23 21:41:15   
   
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   Hello Rob,   
      
   On Sunday March 05 2023 11:40, you wrote to me:   
      
    >> I see... So it is the terminal - or whatever functions as its   
    >> equivalent - and only the terminal that determines the encoding of the   
    >> message at hand.   
      
    RS> Or rather, the message content created with that terminal. If the   
    RS> content is just plain ASCII, regardless of the terminal that created   
    RS> it, then the message will fly the ASCII charset flag. In Synchronet, a   
    RS> CP437 terminal cannot be used to created UTF-8 content, so messages   
    RS> created by such a terminal will either be ASCII or CP437 encoded.   
      
   Understood.   
      
    >>  RS> The only encodings Synchronet supports for message text are   
    >>  RS> ASCII, CP437, and UTF-8.   
    >>   
    >> Hmmm... That leaves out a big part of Fidonet. These days the   
    >> majority, maybe the vast majority is writen in a language that uses   
    >> the Cyrillic alfabet and the encoding is CP866.   
      
    RS> True, that's the state of things.   
      
   Well, at least those needing more that CP437 can use UTF-8.   
      
    >>  >> So what happens in that case if the terminal does not support   
    >>  >> UTF-8?   
    >>   
    >>  RS> The message text would be converted to CP437 before being   
    >>  RS> quoted and the response would be in CP437.   
    >>   
    >> And now I come back to my previous question: what happens if it   
    >> does not fit into CP437? That can easely happen. A Euro sign '¿'   
    >> can be composed in UTF-8 but it  does not fit into CP437.   
      
   I see that the EURO sign is translated into an inverted question mark.   
      
    RS> When a CP437 terminal user quotes a UTF-8 message that contains   
    RS> untranslatable UNICODE codepoints without a CP437 equivalent, they're   
    RS> translated to character that indiciates it was untranslatable. By   
    RS> default, that character is the upside down question mark.   
      
   Check.   
      
   Next question: Can Synchonet deal with a UTF-8 encoded nodelist?   
      
   Here is where to find one: http://www.vlist.eu/downloads/fidolist/z2daily.065   
      
      
      
   Cheers, Michiel   
      
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