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   Message 131 of 382   
   Rob Swindell to Michiel van der Vlist   
   codepage   
   04 Mar 23 13:11:48   
   
   TZUTC: -0800   
   MSGID: 329.fidoutf8@1:103/705 2868eb5d   
   REPLY: 2:280/5555 640319a0   
   PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/5d1d586fd Mar  3 2023 GCC 12.2.0   
   TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/067c40063 Mar  3 2023 GCC 12.2.0   
   COLS: 80   
   BBSID: VERT   
   CHRS: CP437 2   
   NOTE: FSEditor.js v1.104   
     Re: codepage   
     By: Michiel van der Vlist to Rob Swindell on Sat Mar 04 2023 11:00 am   
      
    > Hello Rob,   
    >   
    > On Thursday March 02 2023 17:02, you wrote to me:   
    >   
    >  >> All three of your messages have non-ASCCI characters. They all have   
    >  >> the degree character 'ø' in the sign off, or whatver you call it.   
    >  >> In the last message it is also present in the message test before   
    >  >> the "--" (two dashes).   
    >   
    >  RS> Ah, true. But in the message I posted using a UTF-8 terminal, that   
    >  RS> would have been a UTF-8 encoded "degree" symbol instead of a   
    >  RS> CP437-encoded one (as would have been in the other messages, including   
    >  RS> this one).   
    >   
    > The message I am respondig to, is indeed encoded in CP437.   
    >   
    > So let me get this straight:   
    >   
    > 1) If the message that is responded to, is encoded in CP437, Synchronet   
    > answers in CP437. Yes?   
      
   No. The message response itself determines the encoding and only CP437   
   terminals can faithfully author CP437 encoded messages. If a UTF-8 terminal   
   user responds to a CP437 encoded message (with non-ASCII chars), the original   
   message text is converted to UTF-8 before it is quoted and the response will   
   be UTF-8. Unless there are no non-ASCII chars in the response, in which case   
   the response charset witll just be ASCII.   
      
    > So what happens if the response does not fit into CP437?   
      
   I think this question is making false assumptions.   
      
    > What happens if the original message is encoded in a one byte encoding other   
    > than CP437?   
      
   The only encodings Synchronet supports for message text are ASCII, CP437, and   
   UTF-8.   
      
    > 2) If the message that is responded to is encoded in UTF-8, Synchronet   
    > answers in UTF-8 if the terminal theis used supports UTF-8. Yes?   
      
   Yes.   
      
    > So what happens in that case if the terminal does not support UTF-8?   
      
   The message text would be converted to CP437 before being quoted and the   
   response would be in CP437.   
      
    >  >>  RS> Norco, CA WX: 42.0øF, 79.0% humidity, 0 mph NE wind, 0.15   
    >  >> inches RS> rain/24hrs   
    >   
    > My software translates the CP437 encoded degree sign into UTF-8 as you can   
    > see.   
      
   Yup, most software does the same, when appropriate.   
   --    
                                               digital man (rob)   
      
   Sling Blade quote #18:   
   Karl Childers: Some folks call it Hell, I call it Hades.   
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