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|    John Short to All    |
|    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO10    |
|    11 Jul 25 06:21:55    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 201.fnbb-ufo@1:3634/12 2cd61c8c       PID: Synchronet 3.18a-Linux May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.11-Linux r3.173 May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       COLS: 80       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor $Revision: 1.174 $       SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1066              PART 23                      The Seattle Times Friday, May 8, 1987              60,000 sightings can't be wrong, Seattleite insists, "The bottom line       is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available." Dale Goudie              By Peter Lewis Times Staff Reporter       ------------------------------------------------------------------        In their most commonly reported from, the aliens have large       heads and stand 3 to 4 feet tall. Their enormous eyes rest under       a transparent helmet. Clad in jumpsuits adorned with insignias, the       humanoids walk in sure, positive movements. Far out? Maybe so, but       that's where they probably come from. And Seattle resident Dale Goudie       has talked to people who say they've seen them.              Goudie has spent the past 14 years researching UFOs and using the       Freedom of Information Act to collect federal documents that he contends       prove UFOs exist.              The official position of the U.S. Air Force, for example, is that       it got out of the UFO business when Project Bluebook ended in 1969.       But Goudie says the Bluebook was succeeded by Project Aquarius. Since       1942, there have been an estimated 60,000 UFO sightings in the United       States alone and only 5 percent of sightings are actually reported,       Goudie says. Feeding characteristics of the 60,000 sightings into       a computer, 250 different shapes emerged, suggesting to Goudie that       there may be more than one species involved in UFOs. "The bottom       line is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available," says Goudie,       who has dedicated a room in his home to countless files and papers       on UFOs.              "The real problem is, no one wants to take the responsibility       of telling the American public this (UFOs) is real." Consider a series       of once classified material on Project Aquarius: An Air Force document       dated Nov. 17, 1980, from the Office of Special Investigations at       Rolling Air Force Base in Washington, D.C., to OSI at Kirtland Air       Force Base in New Mexico refers to a "request for photo imagery       interpretation." Other papers indicate that the request stemmed from       a series of "alleged sightings of unidentified aerial lights" over       the Manzano Wepons Storage Area at Kirtland between Aug. 8 and Sept.       3, 1980. An analysis of at least two pictures of the sightings concluded       that the film was unaltered and that they were "legitimate negative(s)       of (an) unidentified aerial object," according to the Nov. 17, 1980,       document. Of the two confirmed sightings, one "contained a trilateral       insignia on the lower portion of objects..." The document also states:       "The official U .S. government policy and results of Project Aquarius       is still classified top secret with no dissemination outside official       intelligence channels. ...Because of a chance of public disclosure,       no knowledgeable personnel with SPA (it's not clear if SPA stands       for Special Project Aquarius, or something else) will be provided..."       But another Air Force document dated Jan. 25,1983, says "possible       unauthorized release of classified material" cast doubt on the authenticity       of the Nov. 17, 1980, document.              The later document says the earlier one included nonexistent officers,       and it sought to discredit the validity of the purported imagery       interpretation. When a Freedom of Information request letter dated       Feb. 20, 1986, sought information on Project Aquarius, the National       Security Agency responded, in part, with a letter dated March 3, 1986:       "Please be advised that Project Aquarius does not deal with unidentified       aerial objects. We, therefore, have no information to provide you       on the subject." But when Sen. John Glenn wrote the National Security       Agency on Jan. 7 of this year on behalf of a constituent who was having       trouble getting responses to Freedom of Information requests about       Project Aquarius, the reply letter, dated Jan. 27, said in part:       "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project by that name which       dealt with UFOs. Coincidentally, there is also an NSA project by       that name.              The NSA project does not deal with UFOs.. .." It is Goudie's contention       that the responses about Project Aquarius demonstrate the government       is saying one thing and doing another. He theorizes that the government       is reluctant to admit the existence of even one UFO because as soon       as it does, it fears opening the door to mass hysteria.              Spokesmen for the Pentagon, the Air Force and the National Security       Agency either declined comment or denied that any government agency       is actively investigating UFOs. The Air Force quit studying UFOs in       1969 after a $500,000 study conducted by the University of Colorado       concluded that "UFO phenomena do not offer a fruitful field in which       to look for major scientific discoveries," according to Capt. Jay       DeFrank. DeFrank noted that in 1977, President Carter asked the National       Aeronautic and Space Administration to look into the possibility of       resuming active investigation of UFOs. This is the same man who in       1973, when he was governor of Georgia, said, "I don't laugh at people       anymore when they say they have seen UFOs because I've seen one myself."              NASA spokesman Dave Garrett recalls that agency's response to the       president: "We said, 'Thank you, but no thank you.' We have never       been in the business." Dennis Chadwick, chief spokesman for the National       Security Agency at Fort George Meade in Maryland, an arm of the pentagon,       would not say whether NSA or any other government agency is actively       investigating UFOs.              Goudie, a 45-year-old freelance ad man and former TV talk-show producer,       is not deterred by the government's stance. Two years ago, he established       a computerized UFO bulletin board - CUFON (for Computer UFO Network)       - that has more than 1,400 members. It spits out information, free       of charge, to anyone with a computer and a modem. He also runs UFO       Information Service International, a global network of UFO sightings,       and Puget Sound Aerial Phenomena Research Inc. None of these enterprises,       he says, is a money-making operation. Goudie says he and others like       him have been helped in their many Freedom of Information requests       by military personnel who want the public to know about UFOs, but       who can't afford to be named.              Many of the documents he's obtained indicate that "suspicious unknown       air activity" has occurred at top-security military installations       where nuclear weapons are stored. The documents relating to UFOs       dropping in on Air Force bases have been published elsewhere - and       professional skeptics such as Phillip Klass, an editor with "Aviation       Week & Space Technology," have written books debunking the authenticity       of those and others sightings. But Goudie notes the government itself       has never volunteered any information, much less any explanations,       about UFOs at military bases. "You can explain anything away," says       Goudie, referring to Klass and the other debunkers. "But these aren't       solid answers."              Goudie also says he has consulted with "optical physicists" who have       performed "video-negative photoanalysis" of videotapes of UFOs to       substantiate that the object are not of this earth. Goudie also says       he has interviewed about 40 people over the years who claim to have       been abducted by UFOs. All occurred in rural areas, including some       episodes outside Redmond, in Maple Valley and north of Seattle. He       thinks about three-fourths of them are telling the truth. In many       cases, the victims have suffered physical scars that they didn't have       before their encounter, Goudie says. "I've tried to get these people       to come forward. They don't want anything to do with newspapers.       They're scared to death of losing their jobs..."              Considering the threat to national security and the risk to civilians,       Goudie believes the government has an obligation to be more forthcoming.       You don't have to look to far away places for physical evidence of       UFOs, according to Goudie. He has a videotape of an object flying       over Tacoma in 1982, enhanced by a process known as "video photo analysis"       which allows the viewer to see vertical and horizontal lines within       what Goudie calls "the plasma" that covers the true shape within.       He expects the video to air on Sunday's "Town Meeting" on KOMO.       Television, specifically a Dick Cavett show that aired in 1973, started       Goudie's preoccupation with UFOs. He's since appeared on CNN's Larry       King Show and CBS-TV network news shows, among others. He spent countless       hours and dollars pursuing UFOs. His goal, he says, is to see the       subject become an area of serious scientific inquiry. "I'm doing       it because I think people deserve the facts, and no one's taking the       time to do it."              end of part 23                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *        **********************************************       John       telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23       http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080       --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux        * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001       SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30       SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 220/6 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/317 426 428 664 700 705 240/1120 5832 250/1 263/1 266/512       SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219 322/757       SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 633/280 712/848       SEEN-BY: 712/1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105 3634/0 12 56 57 60 5020/400       SEEN-BY: 5020/8912 5054/30 5075/35       PATH: 3634/12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426           |
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