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   John Short to All   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO10   
   11 Jul 25 06:21:55   
   
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   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1066   
      
   PART 23   
      
      
                        The Seattle Times Friday, May 8, 1987   
      
   60,000 sightings can't be wrong, Seattleite insists, "The bottom line   
   is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available." Dale Goudie   
      
   By Peter Lewis Times Staff Reporter   
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         In their most commonly reported from, the aliens have large   
   heads and stand 3 to 4 feet tall.  Their enormous eyes rest under   
   a transparent helmet. Clad in jumpsuits adorned with insignias, the   
   humanoids walk in sure, positive movements.  Far out?  Maybe so, but   
   that's where they probably come from.  And Seattle resident Dale Goudie   
   has talked to people who say they've seen them.   
      
   Goudie has spent the past 14 years researching UFOs and using the   
   Freedom of Information Act to collect federal documents that he contends   
   prove UFOs exist.   
      
   The official position of the U.S. Air Force, for example, is that   
   it got out of the UFO business when Project Bluebook ended in 1969.   
   But Goudie says the Bluebook was succeeded by Project Aquarius.  Since   
   1942, there have been an estimated 60,000 UFO sightings in the United   
   States alone and only 5 percent of sightings are actually reported,   
   Goudie says.  Feeding characteristics of the 60,000 sightings into   
   a computer, 250 different shapes emerged, suggesting to Goudie that   
   there may be more than one species involved in UFOs.  "The bottom   
   line is: Don't believe me, but do read what is available," says Goudie,   
   who has dedicated a room in his home to countless files and papers   
   on UFOs.   
      
   "The real problem is, no one wants to take the responsibility   
   of telling the American public this (UFOs) is real."  Consider a series   
   of once classified material on Project Aquarius: An Air Force document   
   dated Nov. 17, 1980, from the Office of Special Investigations at   
   Rolling Air Force Base in Washington, D.C., to OSI at Kirtland Air   
   Force Base in New Mexico refers to a "request for photo imagery   
   interpretation."  Other papers indicate that the request stemmed from   
   a series of "alleged sightings of unidentified aerial lights" over   
   the Manzano Wepons Storage Area at Kirtland between Aug. 8 and Sept.   
   3, 1980.  An analysis of at least two pictures of the sightings concluded   
   that the film was unaltered and that they were "legitimate negative(s)   
   of (an) unidentified aerial object," according to the Nov. 17, 1980,   
   document.  Of the two confirmed sightings, one "contained a trilateral   
   insignia on the lower portion of objects..."  The document also states:   
   "The official U .S. government policy and results of Project Aquarius   
   is still classified top secret with no dissemination outside official   
   intelligence channels. ...Because of a chance of public disclosure,   
   no knowledgeable personnel with SPA (it's not clear if SPA stands   
   for Special Project Aquarius, or something else) will be provided..."   
   But another Air Force document dated Jan. 25,1983, says "possible   
   unauthorized release of classified material" cast doubt on the authenticity   
   of the Nov. 17, 1980, document.   
      
   The later document says the earlier one included nonexistent officers,   
   and it sought to discredit the validity of the purported imagery   
   interpretation.  When a Freedom of Information request letter dated   
   Feb. 20, 1986, sought information on Project Aquarius, the National   
   Security Agency responded, in part, with a letter dated March 3, 1986:   
   "Please be advised that Project Aquarius does not deal with unidentified   
   aerial objects.  We, therefore, have no information to provide you   
   on the subject."  But when Sen. John Glenn wrote the National Security   
   Agency on Jan. 7 of this year on behalf of a constituent who was having   
   trouble getting responses to Freedom of Information requests about   
   Project Aquarius, the reply letter, dated Jan. 27, said in part:   
   "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project by that name which   
   dealt with UFOs.  Coincidentally, there is also an NSA project by   
   that name.   
      
   The NSA project does not deal with UFOs.. .."  It is Goudie's contention   
   that the responses about Project Aquarius demonstrate the government   
   is saying one thing and doing another.  He theorizes that the government   
   is reluctant to admit the existence of even one UFO because as soon   
   as it does, it fears opening the door to mass hysteria.   
      
   Spokesmen for the Pentagon, the Air Force and the National Security   
   Agency either declined comment or denied that any government agency   
   is actively investigating UFOs. The Air Force quit studying UFOs in   
   1969 after a $500,000 study conducted by the University of Colorado   
   concluded that "UFO phenomena do not offer a fruitful field in which   
   to look for major scientific discoveries," according to Capt. Jay   
   DeFrank.  DeFrank noted that in 1977, President Carter asked the National   
   Aeronautic and Space Administration to look into the possibility of   
   resuming active investigation of UFOs.  This is the same man who in   
   1973, when he was governor of Georgia, said, "I don't laugh at people   
   anymore when they say they have seen UFOs because I've seen one myself."   
      
   NASA spokesman Dave Garrett recalls that agency's response to the   
   president:  "We said, 'Thank you, but no thank you.'  We have never   
   been in the business."  Dennis Chadwick, chief spokesman for the National   
   Security Agency at Fort George Meade in Maryland, an arm of the pentagon,   
   would not say whether NSA or any other government agency is actively   
   investigating UFOs.   
      
   Goudie, a 45-year-old freelance ad man and former TV talk-show producer,   
   is not deterred by the government's stance.  Two years ago, he established   
   a computerized UFO bulletin board - CUFON (for Computer UFO Network)   
   - that has more than 1,400 members.  It spits out information, free   
   of charge, to anyone with a computer and a modem.  He also runs UFO   
   Information Service International, a global network of UFO sightings,   
   and Puget Sound Aerial Phenomena Research Inc.  None of these enterprises,   
   he says, is a money-making operation.  Goudie says he and others like   
   him have been helped in their many Freedom of Information requests   
   by military personnel who want the public to know about UFOs, but   
   who can't afford to be named.   
      
   Many of the documents he's obtained indicate that "suspicious unknown   
   air activity" has occurred at top-security military installations   
   where nuclear weapons are stored.  The documents relating to UFOs   
   dropping in on Air Force bases have been published elsewhere - and   
   professional skeptics such as Phillip Klass, an editor with "Aviation   
   Week & Space Technology," have written books debunking the authenticity   
   of those and others sightings.  But Goudie notes the government itself   
   has never volunteered any information, much less any explanations,   
   about UFOs at military bases. "You can explain anything away," says   
   Goudie, referring to Klass and the other debunkers. "But these aren't   
   solid answers."   
      
   Goudie also says he has consulted with "optical physicists" who have   
   performed "video-negative photoanalysis" of videotapes of UFOs to   
   substantiate that the object are not of this earth.  Goudie also says   
   he has interviewed about 40 people over the years who claim to have   
   been abducted by UFOs.  All occurred in rural areas, including some   
   episodes outside Redmond, in Maple Valley and north of Seattle.  He   
   thinks about three-fourths of them are telling the truth.  In many   
   cases, the victims have suffered physical scars that they didn't have   
   before their encounter, Goudie says.  "I've tried to get these people   
   to come forward.  They don't want anything to do with newspapers.   
   They're scared to death of losing their jobs..."   
      
   Considering the threat to national security and the risk to civilians,   
   Goudie believes the government has an obligation to be more forthcoming.   
   You don't have to look to far away places for physical evidence of   
   UFOs, according to Goudie.  He has a videotape of an object flying   
   over Tacoma in 1982, enhanced by a process known as "video photo analysis"   
   which allows the viewer to see vertical and horizontal lines within   
   what Goudie calls "the plasma" that covers the true shape within.   
   He expects the video to air on Sunday's "Town Meeting" on KOMO.   
   Television, specifically a Dick Cavett show that aired in 1973, started   
   Goudie's preoccupation with UFOs.  He's since appeared on CNN's Larry   
   King Show and CBS-TV network news shows, among others.  He spent countless   
   hours and dollars pursuing UFOs.  His goal, he says, is to see the   
   subject become an area of serious scientific inquiry.  "I'm doing   
   it because I think people deserve the facts, and no one's taking the   
   time to do it."   
      
   end of part 23   
      
                
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