home bbs files messages ]

Just a sample of the Echomail archive

Cooperative anarchy at its finest, still active today. Darkrealms is the Zone 1 Hub.

   UFO      Debating & discussing Planet Crackpot...      366 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 95 of 366   
   Beth Martin to All   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve    
   10 Jul 25 06:46:24   
   
   TZUTC: -0400   
   MSGID: 196.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2cd4d0c4   
   PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan  2 2022 MSC 1928   
   TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan  2 2022 MSC 1928   
   BBSID: RICKSBBS   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1065   
      
   PART 22   
      
                  FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES   
   ------------------------------------------------------------------   
                                                      23 September 1947   
   SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"   
   TO:      Commanding General   
            Army Air Forces   
            Washington 25, D.C.   
      
            ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen   
                       AC/AS-2   
      
   1.  As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered   
   opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs."   
   This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2   
   and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory,   
   Engineering Division T-3.  This opinion was arrived at in a conference   
   between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence   
   T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power   
   Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.   
      
   2.  It is the opinion that:   
      
     a.  The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or   
         fictitious.   
      
     b.  There are objects probably approximately the shpe of a disc,   
         of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made   
         aircraft.   
      
     c.  There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused   
         by natural phenomena, such as meteors.   
      
     d.  The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates   
         of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action   
         which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by   
         friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility   
         that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically   
         or remotely.   
      
     e.  The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:   
      
         (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.   
      
         (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object   
             apparently was operating under high performance conditions.   
      
         (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed   
             on top.   
      
         (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from   
             three to nine objects.   
      
         (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances   
             a substantial rumbling roar was noted.   
      
         [6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.   
      
      
      
   Continued on Next One   
      
      
                  FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES   
   ------------------------------------------------------------------   
                                      2   
           LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL,   
                     ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947   
   ------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
      f.  It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided   
          extensive detailed development is undertaken--to construct   
          a piloted aicraft which has the general description of the   
          object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of   
          an approximate range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds.   
      
      g.  Any devlopments in this country along the lines indicated would   
          be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable   
          expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should   
          be set up independently of existing projects.   
      
      h.  Due consideration must be given the following:   
      
              (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic   
                  origin the product of some high security project not   
                  known to AC/AS-2 or this command.   
      
              [2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash   
                  recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the   
                  existence of these objects.   
      
              (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form   
                  of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of   
                  our domestic knowledge.   
      
   3.  It is recommended that:   
      
      a.  Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a   
          priority, security classification and code name for a detailed   
          study of this matter to include the preparation of complete   
          sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be   
          made available to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission,   
          JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the   
          RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with   
          a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt   
          of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days   
          as the investigation develops.  A complete interchange of data   
          should be effected.   
      
   4.  Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation   
       within its current resources in order to more closely define the   
       nature of the phenomenon.  Detailed Essential Elements of Information   
       will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.   
      
                                              N.F. TWINING   
                                              Lieutenant General, U.S.A.   
                                              Commanding.   
      
   end of part 22   
      
                
     **********************************************   
     * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *   
     **********************************************   
      
   Beth,   
   http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080   
   --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32   
    * Origin: Rick's BBS - telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23 (1:3634/60)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001   
   SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30   
   SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 220/6 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110   
   SEEN-BY: 229/317 426 428 664 700 705 240/1120 5832 250/1 263/1 266/512   
   SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219 322/757   
   SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 633/280 712/848   
   SEEN-BY: 712/1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105 3634/0 12 56 57 60 5020/400   
   SEEN-BY: 5020/8912 5054/30 5075/35   
   PATH: 3634/60 12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426   
      

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca