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|    Beth Martin to All    |
|    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve     |
|    10 Jul 25 06:46:24    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 196.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2cd4d0c4       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: UTF-8 4       SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1065              PART 22               FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES       ------------------------------------------------------------------        23 September 1947       SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"       TO: Commanding General        Army Air Forces        Washington 25, D.C.               ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen        AC/AS-2              1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered       opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs."       This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2       and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory,       Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference       between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence       T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power       Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.              2. It is the opinion that:               a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or        fictitious.               b. There are objects probably approximately the shpe of a disc,        of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made        aircraft.               c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused        by natural phenomena, such as meteors.               d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates        of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action        which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by        friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility        that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically        or remotely.               e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:               (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.               (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object        apparently was operating under high performance conditions.               (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed        on top.               (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from        three to nine objects.               (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances        a substantial rumbling roar was noted.               [6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.                            Continued on Next One                      FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES       ------------------------------------------------------------------        2        LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL,        ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947       ------------------------------------------------------------------               f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided        extensive detailed development is undertaken--to construct        a piloted aicraft which has the general description of the        object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of        an approximate range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds.               g. Any devlopments in this country along the lines indicated would        be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable        expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should        be set up independently of existing projects.               h. Due consideration must be given the following:               (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic        origin the product of some high security project not        known to AC/AS-2 or this command.               [2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash        recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the        existence of these objects.               (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form        of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of        our domestic knowledge.              3. It is recommended that:               a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a        priority, security classification and code name for a detailed        study of this matter to include the preparation of complete        sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be        made available to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission,        JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the        RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with        a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt        of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days        as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data        should be effected.              4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation        within its current resources in order to more closely define the        nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information        will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.               N.F. TWINING        Lieutenant General, U.S.A.        Commanding.              end of part 22                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. 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