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|    Message 94 of 366    |
|    richard sutphin to All    |
|    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO10    |
|    09 Jul 25 07:27:07    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 199.fnbb-ufo@1:3634/12 2cd388d2       PID: Synchronet 3.18a-Linux May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.11-Linux r3.173 May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       COLS: 80       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor $Revision: 1.174 $       SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1064              PART 21              CUFON Computer UFO Network              Document #: 4       From: UFO INFO SERVICE       Date Sent: 06-09-1986       Subject: 1949 FBI MEMO RE: PHOTOS               CUFON-UFO INFORMATION SERVICE SEATTLE, WA               FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES        ---------------------------------------------------------------              Office Memorandum - UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT              TO : DIRECT OR FBI DATE: January 10, 1949       FROM : SAC KNOXVILLE       SUBJECT : "FLYING SAUCERS" OBSERVED OVER        OAK RIDGE AREA        INTERNAL SECURITY-X               There are being submitted herewith two photographs of reputedly       "flying saucers" which were seen at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, sometime       during July of 1947. All of the information contained in this letter       was received from George Rateman, Resident Engineer, Air Material       Command, United States Army, who is the principal army technician       at the Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research Center       at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.               Mr. Rateman advised that the attached photographs were taken       by ______ in July of 1947. He stated that interview with _______       revealed that he had been snapping photographs of his family in front       of his residence at 218 Illinois Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late       in the afternoon, when he looked into the sky and observed the vapor       trail as exhibited by the photograph numbered "1." __________ stated       that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to the next       number, when he looked into the sky and observed the ball of fire       as shown in photograph 2. _______ made these photographs available       to reporters of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning       them was run in that paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy       of the newspaper clipping, which is also being submitted herewith       to the Bureau, the print was very indistinct; the news story did not       contain any factual information; and it was regarded generally by       the public at the time as a possible trick.               Later, it was learned by Rateman And _________ that _________       had made several copies of this photograph and had distributed them       among his aquaintances at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Upon ___________       finding that the photographs had received some distribution, he requested       Rateman as Head o f the Compliance and Investigations Division, to       recover as many as possible of the photographs, advise the persons       in whose possession they were found to say nothing to anyone concerning       them, and to return the said photographs to him for transmission to       the United States Air Force Intelligence Service. Rateman advises       that he succeeded in rounding up twenty four copies of these photographs,       and that, according to the statements of ________, no more copies       were made or distributed. Rateman further stated that _______ had       appeared extremely concerned over the matter and seemed quite emphatic       that the matter should be given no more publicity than was absolutely       necessary. Rateman also advised that he studied the negatives from       which the reproductions were made, and they appeared to be authentic       in that trick photography should have been apparent, but from       the ______________ __________ ______.                            NOTE: THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH NORMAL CHANNELS,       INCLUDING THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA). THE DOCUMENT IS       NOT A HOAX. GUY HOTTEL WAS THE SENIOR AGENT IN CHARGE (SAC) OF THE       WASHINGTON FBI OFFICE IN 1950. THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY DOCUMENTS THAT,       ALL TOGETHER, INDICATE A GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY COVER-UP OF UFOs       THAT MAKES WATERGATE LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY.                     *****************************************************************                     Office Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT              TO: DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: March 22, 1950              FROM: GUY HOTTEL, SAC, WASHINGTON              SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS        INFORMATION CONCERNING                     The following information was furnished to SA [blanked] by       [ blanked ]       [ blanked ]              An investigator for the Air Forces stated that three so-called flying       saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as       being circular in shape with raised centers, approxi-mately 50 feet       in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape       but only three feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine       texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout       suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.              According to Mr. [blanked] informant, the saucers were found in New       Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered       radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes       with the controling mechanism of the saucers.              No further evaluation was attempted by SA [blank] concerning the above.                            RHK:VIM                     ******************************************************************       end of part 21                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. 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