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   Message 92 of 366   
   Jerry Woody to All   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve    
   07 Jul 25 06:30:19   
   
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   PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan  2 2022 MSC 1928   
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   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1062   
      
   PART 19   
      
          A very bizarre but intriguing letter was sent to APRO in either   
   late 1980 or early 1981 and is commonly referred to by the name of   
   the initial subject of the letter, a Mr. Craig Weitzel. This letter   
   refers to a sequence of events which occurred in the mid-1980's at   
   both Kirtland AFB and in an area near Pecos, NM and also makes several   
   statements to the effect that there is a UFO-investigation detachment   
   stationed at or near Kirtland. The writer also goes on to mention   
   among other things that there is at least one "object" stored in the   
   Manzano storage area. That the letter was at least legitimately received   
   at APRO can be ascertained by the vehement letter which Jim Lorenzen   
   mailed out rebuking the gentleman who released this letter without   
   official permission from APRO. However, can we determine if this letter   
   is a total hoax or is there even a grain of truth to be found in the   
   information it conveys? In a conversation I had with Craig Weitzel   
   he claimed to know nothing of the details related in the letter, and   
   denied that he took any photographs. Strangely enough, however, he   
   did state that he and the other did see an unusual silvery object   
   hovering high in the sky which left the area, to use his words,   
   "exponentially"! He had been training in mountain rescue operations   
   and he and the others had spelled out S-O-S on the mountain side using   
   parachutes and were waiting for the rescue helicopters to spot them.   
   While looking for these helicopters they notices the silvery "UFO".   
   If this is all that occurred what could be the reason to fabricate   
   such a letter and yet give the name and address of a witness who was   
   sure to refute the claims? Was it just a bizarre practical joke? The   
   author of the anonymous letter claims that after Weitzel spoke with   
   AFOSI agent Dody (sic) he did not want to have anything more to do   
   with the matter and subsequently the Dody character denied that there   
   had been any photographs. Was this a circumstance that could have   
   been expected based on previous experience with Air Force handling   
   of such matters? Many government and military witnesses often refuse   
   to talk about their experiences to strangers either because of official   
   pressure or simply for the sake of their own privacy. Motivation again   
   must be considered in efforts to find the complete truth.   
      
         In early October 1987 I had a strange conversation with an individual   
   who is unknown to me except by first name and who initially knew   
   absolutely nothing about my interest in UFOs. During a telephone   
   conversation which took place totally by chance, the subject of nuclear   
   weapons came up as this person indicated some knowledge of this   
   weaponry, being at the time a member of the Air Force. I jokingly   
   asked to know everything there was to know about Kirtland AFB, but   
   not due to my interest in nuclear weapons per se but because of something   
   else I thought may be stored at Manzano that "isn't nuclear weapons."   
   After a momentary chuckle this individual said, "yes...UFOs!" As astounded   
   as I was I asked for a little clarification, and after relating my   
   interest, I was told that there are two "objects" stored in the Manzano   
   area from what this person had heard during conversations by Air Force   
   personnel in Germany. There had been some discussion about something   
   which was related to a UFO incident widely reported in German newspapers   
   in 1981 being similar to something which "they" had "over here."   
   Because of the circumstances under which this conversation occurred   
   and the fact that I had in no way even alluded to the subject I believe   
   that this may offer some support to some of the statements made in   
   the anonymous "Weitzel" letter.   
      
         A final note of interest has come up in the newly released book   
   on the "flying boomerang" objects reported in recent years in and   
   around New York state [NIGHT SIEGE, Ballantine 1987]. In the process   
   of investigating these incidents Hynek and Imbrogno were contacted   
   by an individual who claimed to work for the NSA. They apparently   
   verified this to their own satisfaction, and while this person professed   
   that his interest was only personal, they were struck by the inordinate   
   amount of interest this person showed in their investigations and   
   any evidence they uncovered. There are even indications that their   
   telephones may have been tapped. While it is unknown if this man's   
   interest went further than personal curiosity, it is clear that the   
   investigators felt there was something unusual about it.  Nevertheless,   
   here is yet another instance in which the National Security Agency   
   seems to have crept into the picture.   
      
         Do the facts as outlined here cast reasonable suspicion on the   
   NSA and its part in official interest in unidentified flying objects?   
   I believe that they do and that there is justifiable cause to suspect   
   that the project AQUARIUS which relates (at least in some way) to   
   UFOs is probably an NSA, or NSA related project. It also still seems   
   that in spite of the arguments and confusion concerning documents,   
   the designation "MJ-12" must be considered if not a certainty, than   
   at least potentially valid. Those who have taken the time to contact   
   witnesses and obtain their statements and help, have the best chance   
   to make up their minds for themselves, regardless of the confusion   
   concerning altered documents which seems to be precipitating furiously.   
   We do not want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water   
   simply because the facts seem confusing. Perhaps even the confusion   
   is being directed by someone somewhere. We should keep our sights   
   fixed firmly on the major issues and the facts we can prove in our   
   efforts to uncover the truth.   
      
   END   
      
   Thanks to all those sources both named and unnamed who have contributed   
   to the facts outlined here.   
      
   end of part 19   
      
                
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