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   Message 91 of 366   
   Jerry Woody to All   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve    
   06 Jul 25 06:14:24   
   
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   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1061   
      
   PART 18   
      
         The recent issue of JUST CAUSE also contains the statement by   
   Larry Fawcett and Barry Greenwood that they have been told that this   
   document is actually a retyped version. This fact was reportedly   
   revealed in 1983 to Peter Gersten by an Air Force officer and was   
   either forgotten or over-looked until just recently. However, the Air   
   Force source who is cited is said to be none other than Richard Doty   
   himself.   
      
         In light of the fact that it has recently become common knowledge   
   that Mr. Moore does (for his own reasons) delete documents which he   
   obtains, and that he is rather aggressive in his research, I believe   
   that Mr. Moore did in fact retype or have this document retyped. But   
   does this negate the value of the document, or indicate that it is   
   a hoax? Perhaps this explains why no one can verify if the document   
   is genuine, because technically it is a forgery. It would appear that   
   it is up to Mr. Moore to reveal a clean, accurate version and to finally   
   reveal the facts behind its acquisition.   
      
         According to film producer and director Linda Moulton Howe,   
   she has had independent confirmation of MJ-12 and reportedly was shown   
   a set of documents containing much of the same, if not identical,   
   information. However, the actual name of the group in question was   
   not "Majestic" but another similar sounding word containing the letters   
   M and J. Could it be that the term "Majestic" was a substitution in   
   a clever attempt to withhold a key bit of information which only someone   
   with true inside information would be able to identify?   
      
         If there is reason to question the accuracy of the information   
   pre-sented in the original AQUARIUS/MJ-12 document as well as the   
   information in the recent documents pertaining to MJ-12, does this   
   logically imply that the 1980 Kirtland/Bennewitz events should be   
   considered questionable?  Any single-witness UFO sighting has always   
   been somewhat questionable, this is exactly why we look for multiple   
   witnesses and any other supporting evidence. If Richard Doty, or Paul   
   Bennewitz were alone in reporting these incidents then the Kirtland   
   events would never have become as major an issue as they have. However   
   there were numerous individuals involved not only in the events   
   precipitating preparation of the documents themselves. A brief summary   
   of the incidents is as follows:-   
      
         Early 1980, Paul Bennewitz becomes involved in observing and   
         filming objects which he has sighted on the ground and in the   
         air near Kirtland AFB and the Manzano range. Reportedly his   
         wife was also present to witness some of the first landings   
         he witnessed and filmed in the Coyote Canyon area. Subsequently   
         he contacts Earnest Edwards of the Kirtland Security Police who,   
         over the period of the next few months, becomes concerned and   
         requests the guards on the Manzano Weapons Storage Area report   
         to him any sightings of unusual aerial lights. At the beginning   
         of August 1980 three guards report sighting an aerial light   
         which descends on the Sandia Military Reservation.  This is   
         the first sighting described in the complaint form signed by   
         Richard Doty. Edwards reports the sighting to Doty unaware that   
         Doty has already heard from Russ Curtis (Sandia Security Chief)   
         that a Sandia Security guard sighted a disc-shaped object near   
         a structure just minutes after the sighting by the three Manzano   
         guards. Doty includes these reports and several others in his   
         Complaint Form and forwards the report to AFOSI Headquarters   
         in Washington.   
      
      
   From this point on many other persons became involved. Bennewitz was   
   called down to a meeting at Kirtland AFB at which several major Air   
   Force officers and Sandia personnel were present, including a Brigadier   
   General.  Earnest Edwards has confirmed that the three guards under   
   his command reported what was described, and that the meeting took   
   place. Bennewitz has confirmed that Doty and Jerry Miller came to   
   his home to view his materials and there is a document signed by Thomas   
   A. Cseh, Commander of the Base Investigative Detachment, to confirm   
   this. Finally there is the complete set of documents which were released   
   by AFOSI Headquarters under cover of the Department of the Air Force   
   relating to the described events.   
      
         There seem to be only two possibilities to consider. One: that   
   this is one of the most profound deceptions that has been undertaken   
   with the sanction of the USAF, involving a civilian, for purposes   
   which can only be imagined. The other: that the events happened as   
   described and that the intervening years, subsequent developments,   
   and misguided researchers, have only clouded the facts. Perhaps there   
   was also some effort made on an official level to defuse the sensitive   
   nature of the events.   
      
         Would Richard Doty have perpetrated a hoax, involved other   
   officers in his deception, sent the hoax on to AFOSI Headquarters,   
   and then spread certain information to civilian UFO researchers? For   
   what purpose? And would he still be in the Air Force if he was discovered,   
   knowing the public relations catastrophe that could result from AFOSI   
   in Washington releasing the subsequent documents? It seems inconceivable   
   that the Base Investigative Detachment, and the Department of the   
   Air Force, would not have quickly and easily discovered the hoax and   
   subsequently labeled the entire matter as such, knowing their previous   
   predilection to do just that.   
      
         A few simple telephone calls have served to clarify much of   
   the truth of the initial incidents. We must avoid the temptation at   
   times to "shoot first and ask questions later" which can result in   
   spreading misinformation ourselves. It is advisable to use tact in   
   approaching witnesses as we have no God-given right to call up strangers   
   and demand that they answer questions, particularly when sensitive   
   matters may be involved. Is it any surprise that some of these people   
   may not want to be bothered by every person who plies them with questions?   
      
   end of part 18   
      
                
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