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   Message 79 of 366   
   Carolyn Hoffman to All   
   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve    
   23 Jun 25 06:33:17   
   
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   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1048   
      
   PART 5   
      
   As I walked in the small airport lobby after a 3 hour drive   
   from Richmond I immediately noticed 2 gentlemen who seemed   
   'out of place' for this locale.  Both were wearing pin   
   striped 3 piece suits, both had on dark glasses.  One was a   
   black gentleman.  One was stationed inside the lobby door   
   looking out at the parking lot, one was leaning up against an   
   airline counter.  I sat down and after a few minutes was   
   approached by a tall, bearded man in jeans and a heavy   
   jacket.  He asked if I wanted to have a drink.  We walked   
   outside and he introduced himself as Bill English.  We drove   
   in Bills car into town to a local bar.  About 5 minutes after   
   we ordered and had started to talk, the men I had seen at the   
   airport came into the bar and sat down.  We left for Bill's   
   house and never saw the men again for the next 2 days.   
      
   During the next 2 days I stayed with Bill and his wife and 2   
   children in a small trailer in the middle of a field at his   
   farm.  I asked him endless questions concerning the Grudge 13   
   document, how he happened to see it, what happened to him   
   after he saw it and literally thousands of questions about   
   the content of the document.  My impression of Bill English   
   was that he was totally honest, that he stood behind his   
   statements and recollection of the Grudge 13 papers, that he   
   was a devoted husband and father to his wifes 2 children.   
   That Bill English was ready to come forward and enter into   
   any debate regarding the legitimacy of the document and his   
   recollections thereof.  Of Bills compassion for his father   
   and his fathers feelings concerning Bill and the reasons for   
   their occasional disagreements.  I have tremendous respect   
   for Bill and what he has tried to do in getting this   
   information out to the public.  It has been at tremendous   
   personal risk not to mention the ridicule by sponsered agents   
   such as Bill Moore who has stated that the Grudge 13 papers   
   are a fraud.  (How would Bill Moore know?)   
      
   What follows is additional information about the Grudge 13   
   papers that I obtained from Bill during my visit.  In   
   addition to the following Bill painstakingly drew many   
   sketches of the photos of different types of flying saucers,   
   the equipment obtained from them including a sketch of the   
   football sized nuclear generator and sketches of the autopsy   
   photos.   
      
   From my notes taken during our 2 day meeting:  Bill described   
   a photo taken of 3 live aliens.  Very clear photo, aliens   
   standing against white tile wall, looking confused as if they   
   had been shoved, were looking in different directions.   
   Report said that aliens had contacted a U.S. Intelligence   
   Agency for initial 2 meetings, one at Holloman one at   
   Homestead.   
      
   U.S. Air Force relocation personnel (for persons involved in   
   close encounters) were referred to in report as 'men in   
   black'.   
      
   Major Cunningham was initially accused of murdering Sgt.   
   Jonathon P. Lovette.  Charges were later dropped.   
      
   Bill English's place of employment in England was RAF   
   Security Services Command, RAF Chicksands.   
      
   Entire Grudge 13 report was written as if report was geared   
   toward preparation of defenses.   
      
   Report told of ultrasonic weapons found in Germany at the end   
   of WW II that could shatter 4" thick armour.   
      
   Report told of sensitive military and industrial areas at   
   which personnel experienced missing time.   
      
   Report told about missing time experienced with personnel   
   associated with North American x-15 rocket plane project.   
      
   Report stated that there were 17 different extraterrestrial   
   species accounted for up to the time of the report.   
      
   Extraterrestrials were referred to as A.L.F.'s, Alien Life   
   Forms in the report.   
      
   Report referred to one UFO that was recovered and test flown.   
   The UFO blew up as the 2 Air Force pilots aboard attempted to   
   leave the atmosphere.  English recalls the date as the mid   
   50's.   
      
   Report refers to flying saucer program as Project 'Red Light'   
   and that a secret installation had been constructed in the   
   middle of the Atomic Energy Commission testing ground in   
   Nevada.   
      
   At the time of the report 11 alien cadavers were being kept   
   at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.   
      
   That additional alien cadavers were being stored at 4 to 5   
   other medical institutions.   
      
   That 2 flying saucers of extraterrestrial origin had been   
   tested in the wind tunnel at Langley, Va.   
      
   That at the time of the report, 1 damaged disc was at Elgin   
   Air Force Base in Florida.   
      
   That at the time of the report there had been 2 UFO incidents   
   at Ft. Riley, Kansas.   
      
   That at the time of the report a detachment of the Alpha   
   recovery team was based at Randolph Air force Base.   
      
   The report discussed civilian and military personnel who had   
   been terminated 'to eliminate potentially dangerous elements   
   to the national security'.   
      
   That General James Doolittle had been mentioned several times   
   in the report with the notation that "His (Doolittle's)   
   predictions might be correct".  There was no indication of   
   what those predictions might have been.   
      
   A short segment containing the quotation, "By presidential   
   order, certain aspects of research had been undertaken."   
      
   This report about Bill English and the Grudge 13 papers was   
   prepared by John Lear, 1414 Hollywood Blvd., Las Vegas,   
   Nevada 89110, telephone number (702) 438-8181, on October 7,   
   1988.   
      
   end of part 5   
      
                
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