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|    Carolyn Hoffman to All    |
|    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve     |
|    23 Jun 25 06:33:17    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 179.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2cbe6420       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: UTF-8 4       SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1048              PART 5              As I walked in the small airport lobby after a 3 hour drive       from Richmond I immediately noticed 2 gentlemen who seemed       'out of place' for this locale. Both were wearing pin       striped 3 piece suits, both had on dark glasses. One was a       black gentleman. One was stationed inside the lobby door       looking out at the parking lot, one was leaning up against an       airline counter. I sat down and after a few minutes was       approached by a tall, bearded man in jeans and a heavy       jacket. He asked if I wanted to have a drink. We walked       outside and he introduced himself as Bill English. We drove       in Bills car into town to a local bar. About 5 minutes after       we ordered and had started to talk, the men I had seen at the       airport came into the bar and sat down. We left for Bill's       house and never saw the men again for the next 2 days.              During the next 2 days I stayed with Bill and his wife and 2       children in a small trailer in the middle of a field at his       farm. I asked him endless questions concerning the Grudge 13       document, how he happened to see it, what happened to him       after he saw it and literally thousands of questions about       the content of the document. My impression of Bill English       was that he was totally honest, that he stood behind his       statements and recollection of the Grudge 13 papers, that he       was a devoted husband and father to his wifes 2 children.       That Bill English was ready to come forward and enter into       any debate regarding the legitimacy of the document and his       recollections thereof. Of Bills compassion for his father       and his fathers feelings concerning Bill and the reasons for       their occasional disagreements. I have tremendous respect       for Bill and what he has tried to do in getting this       information out to the public. It has been at tremendous       personal risk not to mention the ridicule by sponsered agents       such as Bill Moore who has stated that the Grudge 13 papers       are a fraud. (How would Bill Moore know?)              What follows is additional information about the Grudge 13       papers that I obtained from Bill during my visit. In       addition to the following Bill painstakingly drew many       sketches of the photos of different types of flying saucers,       the equipment obtained from them including a sketch of the       football sized nuclear generator and sketches of the autopsy       photos.              From my notes taken during our 2 day meeting: Bill described       a photo taken of 3 live aliens. Very clear photo, aliens       standing against white tile wall, looking confused as if they       had been shoved, were looking in different directions.       Report said that aliens had contacted a U.S. Intelligence       Agency for initial 2 meetings, one at Holloman one at       Homestead.              U.S. Air Force relocation personnel (for persons involved in       close encounters) were referred to in report as 'men in       black'.              Major Cunningham was initially accused of murdering Sgt.       Jonathon P. Lovette. Charges were later dropped.              Bill English's place of employment in England was RAF       Security Services Command, RAF Chicksands.              Entire Grudge 13 report was written as if report was geared       toward preparation of defenses.              Report told of ultrasonic weapons found in Germany at the end       of WW II that could shatter 4" thick armour.              Report told of sensitive military and industrial areas at       which personnel experienced missing time.              Report told about missing time experienced with personnel       associated with North American x-15 rocket plane project.              Report stated that there were 17 different extraterrestrial       species accounted for up to the time of the report.              Extraterrestrials were referred to as A.L.F.'s, Alien Life       Forms in the report.              Report referred to one UFO that was recovered and test flown.       The UFO blew up as the 2 Air Force pilots aboard attempted to       leave the atmosphere. English recalls the date as the mid       50's.              Report refers to flying saucer program as Project 'Red Light'       and that a secret installation had been constructed in the       middle of the Atomic Energy Commission testing ground in       Nevada.              At the time of the report 11 alien cadavers were being kept       at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.              That additional alien cadavers were being stored at 4 to 5       other medical institutions.              That 2 flying saucers of extraterrestrial origin had been       tested in the wind tunnel at Langley, Va.              That at the time of the report, 1 damaged disc was at Elgin       Air Force Base in Florida.              That at the time of the report there had been 2 UFO incidents       at Ft. Riley, Kansas.              That at the time of the report a detachment of the Alpha       recovery team was based at Randolph Air force Base.              The report discussed civilian and military personnel who had       been terminated 'to eliminate potentially dangerous elements       to the national security'.              That General James Doolittle had been mentioned several times       in the report with the notation that "His (Doolittle's)       predictions might be correct". There was no indication of       what those predictions might have been.              A short segment containing the quotation, "By presidential       order, certain aspects of research had been undertaken."              This report about Bill English and the Grudge 13 papers was       prepared by John Lear, 1414 Hollywood Blvd., Las Vegas,       Nevada 89110, telephone number (702) 438-8181, on October 7,       1988.              end of part 5                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *        **********************************************              Carol,       telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23       http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080       --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32        * Origin: Rick's BBS - telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23 (1:3634/60)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001       SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30       SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 220/6 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/114 317 426 428 470 664 700 705 240/1120 5832 250/1 263/1       SEEN-BY: 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219       SEEN-BY: 322/757 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 633/280       SEEN-BY: 712/848 1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105 3634/0 12 56 57 60 5020/400       SEEN-BY: 5020/8912 5054/30 5075/35       PATH: 3634/60 12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426           |
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