home bbs files messages ]

Just a sample of the Echomail archive

Cooperative anarchy at its finest, still active today. Darkrealms is the Zone 1 Hub.

   UFO      Debating & discussing Planet Crackpot...      366 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 69 of 366   
   Larry Sneeringer to ALL   
   SUBJECT: E B E's    
   11 Jun 25 06:38:58   
   
   TZUTC: -0400   
   MSGID: 168.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2cae936a   
   PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan  2 2022 MSC 1928   
   TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan  2 2022 MSC 1928   
   BBSID: RICKSBBS   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   SUBJECT: E B E's                                             FILE: UFO1036   
      
   PART 17   
      
   Moore's  Confession:  By  mid-1989  the  two  most  controversial   
   figures in ufology were Moore and Lear. Moore's MUFON lecture  on   
   July 1 did nothing to quiet his legion of critics. On his arrival   
   in  Las Vegas, Moore checked into a different hotel from the  one   
   at which the conference was being held. He already had refused to   
   submit his paper for publication in the symposium proceedings, so   
   no  one  knew what he would say. He had also stipulated  that  he   
   would accept no questions from the floor.   
      
    Moore's speech stunned and angered much of the audience. At  one   
   point   the  shouts  and  jeers  of  Lear's   partisans   brought   
   proceedings  to a halt until order was restored.  Moore  finished   
   and exited immediately. He left Las Vegas not long afterwards.   
      
    In his lecture Moore spoke candidly, for the first time, of  his   
   part in the counterintelligence operation against Bennewitz.  "My   
   role  in the affair," he said, "was largely that of a  freelancer   
   providing information on Paul's current thinking and activities."   
   Doty,  "faithfully carrying out orders which he personally  found   
   distasteful," was one of those involved in the effort to  confuse   
   and  discredit Bennewitz. Because of his success at this  effort,   
   Moore suggested, Doty was chosen by the real "Falcon" as "liaison   
   person,  although I really don't know. Frankly, I  don't  believe   
   that  Doty does either. In my opinion he was simply a pawn  in  a   
   much larger game, just as I was."   
      
    From  disinformation  passed on by AFOSI sources,  and  his  own   
   observations  and  guesses,  according to  Moore,  "by  mid-1982"   
   Bennewitz had put together a story that "contained virtually  all   
   of  the  elements  found  in the current  crop  of  rumors  being   
   circulated around the UFO community." Moore was referring to  the   
   outlandish  tales Lear and Cooper were telling. Moore  said  that   
   "when  I first ran into the disinformation operation . . .  being   
   run on Bennewitz . . . [i)t seemed to me . . . I was in a  rather   
   unique position. There I was with my foot . . . in the door of  a   
   secret  counterintelligence  game that gave every  appearance  of   
   being  somehow directly connected to a high-level government  UFO   
   project, and, judging by the positions of the people I knew to be   
   directly  involved with it, definitely had something to  do  with   
   national  security!  There was no way I was going  to  allow  the   
   opportunity  to  pass me by without learning at  least  something   
   about  what was going on. . . . I would play  the  disinformation   
   game,  get  my  hands  dirty just  often  enough  to  lead  those   
   directing  the  process into believing that I was  doing  exactly   
   what  they wanted me to do, and all the while continue to  burrow   
   my  way into the matrix so as to learn as much as possible  about   
   who  was directing it and why." Some of the same people who  were   
   passing alleged UFO secrets on to Moore were also involved in the   
   operation against Bennewitz. Moore knew that some of the material   
   he  was  getting--essentially  a mild version  of  the  Bennewitz   
   scenario, without the horror, paranoia and conspiracy--was false,   
   but  he (along with Jaime Shandera and Stanton Friedman, to  whom   
   he  confided the cover-up story in June 1982; Friedman,  however,   
   would  not learn of Moore's role in the Bennewitz  episode  until   
   seven years later) felt that some of it was probably true,  since   
   an  invariable  characteristic  of  disinformation  is  that   it   
   contains some facts. Moore also said that Linda Howe had been the   
   victim of one of Doty's disinformation operations.   
      
    Before  he stopped cooperating with such schemes in 1984,  Moore   
   said,  he had given "routine information" to AFOSI about  certain   
   other  individuals in the UFO community. Subsequently he  claimed   
   that  during this period this emphasis) "three other  members  of   
   the  UFO  community . . . were actively doing the same  thing.  I   
   have  since  learned of a fourth. . . . All  four  are  prominent   
   individuals   whose   identities,  if  disclosed,   would   cause   
   considerable  controversy in the UFO community and bring  serious   
   embarrassment  to two of its major organizations. To the best  of   
   my  knowledge,  at least two of these people are  still  actively   
   involved" (Moore, 1989b).   
      
    Although  he would not reveal the identities of  the  government   
   informants  within  ufology,  Moore gave  the  names  of  several   
   persons "who were the subject of intelligence community  interest   
   between 1980 and 1984." They were:   
      
    (1)  Len  Stringfield,  a ufologist known for  his  interest  in   
   crashed-disc   stories;  in  1980  he  had  been  set  up  by   a   
   counterintelligence operative who gave him phony pictures of what   
   purported to be humanoids in cold storage.   
      
    (2) The late Pete Mazzola, whose knowledge of film footage  from   
   a  never-publicized  Florida UFO case was of  great  interest  to   
   counterintelligence types. Moore was directed to urge Mazzola  to   
   send the footage to ufologist Kal Korff (who knew nothing of  the   
   scheme) for analysis; then Moore would make a copy and pass it on   
   to  Doty. But Mazzola never got the film, despite  promises,  and   
   the  incident came to nothing. "I was left with the  impression,"   
   Moore  wrote,  "that  the  file  had  been  intercepted  and  the   
   witnesses somehow persuaded to cease communication with Mazzola."   
      
    (3)  Peter  Gersten,  legal counsel  for  Citizens  Against  UFO   
   Secrecy  (CAUS),  who had spearheaded  a  (largely  unsuccessful)   
   legal suit against the NSA seeking UFO information.   
      
    (4) Larry Fawcett, an official of CAUS and coauthor of a book on   
   the cover-up, Clear Intent (1984).   
      
    (5)  James  and  Coral Lorenzen, the  directors  of  the  Aerial   
   Phenomena Research Organization (APRO) periodically "subjects  of   
   on-again,  off  again interest . . .  mostly  passive  monitoring   
   rather  than active meddling," according to Moore.  Between  1980   
   and  1982 APRO employed a "cooperative" secretary who  passed  on   
   confidential material to counterintelligence personnel.   
      
    (6)  Larry  W. Bryant, who was battling without success  in  the   
   courts  to have UFO secrets revealed. Moore said, "His name  came   
   up often in discussions but I never had any direct involvement in   
   whatever activities revolved around him."   
      
    These revelations sent shock waves through the UFO community. In   
   September CAUS devoted virtually all of an issue of its  magazine   
   Just  Cause to a harshly critical review of  Moore's  activities.   
   Barry  Greenwood  declared that the "outrageousness"  of  Moore's   
   conduct "cannot be described. Moore, one of the major critics  of   
   government  secrecy on UFOs, had covertly informed on people  who   
   thought he was their friend and colleague. Knowing full well that   
   the  government  people  with whom he  was  dealing  were  active   
   disinformants,  Moore  pursued  a  relationship  with  them   and   
   observed  the  deterioration of Paul Bennewitz'[s]  physical  and   
   mental  health.  . . . Moore reported the effects  of  the  false   
   information  regularly to some of the very same people  who  were   
   'doing  it'  to Paul. And Moore boasted in his speech as  to  how   
   effective it was" (Greenwood, 1989). Greenwood complained further   
   about  Moore's  admission that on the disastrous Cover-up .  .  .   
   Live  show Falcon and Condor had said things that they knew  were   
   untrue.  "In  the rare situation where two hours  of  prime  time   
   television  are given over to a favorable presentation  of  UFOs,   
   here we have a fair portion of the last hour wasted in presenting   
   what  Moore admits to be false data. . . . Yet he saw fit  to  go   
   ahead and carry on a charade, making UFO research look ridiculous   
   in  the process. Remarks by Falcon and Condor about  the  aliens'   
   lifestyle  and  preference for Tibetan music and  strawberry  ice   
   cream were laughable." So far as Greenwood and CAUS, skeptical of   
   the MJ-12 briefing document from the first, were concerned, "July   
   1, 1989, may well be remembered in the history of UFO research as   
   the day when the 'Majestic 12' story came crashing to Earth in  a   
   heap of rubble. Cause of death: Suicide!"   
   end of part 17   
      
                
     **********************************************   
     * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *   
     **********************************************   
   --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32   
    * Origin: Rick's BBS - telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23 (1:3634/60)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001   
   SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30   
   SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 220/6 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110   
   SEEN-BY: 229/114 317 426 428 470 664 700 705 240/1120 5832 250/1 263/1   
   SEEN-BY: 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219   
   SEEN-BY: 322/757 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 633/280   
   SEEN-BY: 712/848 1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105 3634/0 12 56 57 60 5020/400   
   SEEN-BY: 5020/8912 5054/30 5075/35   
   PATH: 3634/60 12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426   
      

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca