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   SUBJECT: WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?    
      
   
   MSGID: 1:229/426 62755AA5   
   SUBJECT: WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?                             FILE: UFO101   
      
      
   IT'S STILL DARK OUT. YOU'RE LYING IN BED, FULLY AWAKE BUT, YOU DISCOVER,   
   YOU'RE UTTERLY PARALYZED. YOU SENSE SOMEONE IN THE ROOM. YOU TRY TO CRY   
   OUT. BUT YOU CANNOT. SEVERAL SMALL GRAY BINGS LESS THAN 4 FEET TALL ARE   
   STANDING AT THE FOOT OF YOUR BED. THEIR HEADS ARE PEAR SHAPED AND BALD,   
   AND LARGE FOR THEIR BODIES. THEIR EYES ARE ENORMOUS, THEIR FACES   
   EXPRESSIONLESS AND IDENTICAL. THEY WEAR TIMOCS AMD BOOTS. YOU HOPE THIS   
   IS ONLY A DREAM, BUT AS NEARLY AS YOU CAN TELL IT'S REALLY HAPPENING.   
   THEY LIFT YOU UP AND, EERILY, THEY AND YOU SLIP THROUGH THE WALL OF YOUR   
   BEDROOM AND FLOAT OUT INTO THE AIR, RISING HIGH TOWARD A METALLIC, SAUCER   
   SHAPED SPACECRAFT. THERE, YOU ARE ESCORTED INTO A MEDICAL EXAMINING ROOM.   
   A LARGER BUT SIMILAR BEING EVIDENTLY SOME KIND OF PHYSICIAN TAKES OVER.   
   WHAT FOLLOWS IS EVEN MORE TERRIFYING. YOUR BODY IS PROBED WITH SPECIAL   
   MACHINES, EXPECIALLY YOUR SEXUAL PARTS. IF YOU'RE A MAN, THEY MAY TAKE   
   SPERM SAMPLES; IF YOU'RE A WOMAN, THEY MAY IMPLANT SEMEN OR REMOVE OVA   
   OR FETUSES. THEY MAY FORCE YOU TO HAVE SEX. AFTER WARD, YOU MAY BE   
   USHERED INTO A DIFFERENT ROOM WHERE HYBRID BABIES, PARTLY HUMAN AND PARTLY   
   LIKE THESE CREATURES, STARE BACK AT YOU. YOU MAY BE GIVEN AN ADMONITON   
   ABOUT HUMAN MISBEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY IN DESPOILING THE ENVIRONMENT; SCENES   
   OF FUTURE DEVASTATION ARE DISPLAYED. FINALLY, THESE CHEERLESS GRAY   
   EMISSARIES USHER YOU OUT OF THE SPACE CRAFT AND OOZE YOU BACK THROUGH THE   
   WALLS INTO YOUR BED. BY THE TIME YOU'RE ABLE TO MOVE AND TALK, THEY'RE   
   GONE. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THE INCIDENT REIGHT AWAY; YOU MIGHT FIND SOME   
   PERIOD OF TIME UNACCOUNTABLY MISSING. BECAUSE ALL OF THIS SEEMS SO BIZARRE,   
   YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SANITY; NATURALLY, YOU'RE RELUCTANT TO TALK   
   TO ANYONE ABOUT IT. AT THE SAME TIME, THE EXPERIENCE IS SO DISTURBING THAT   
   IT'S HARD TO KEEP BOTTLED UP FOREVER. IT ALL POURS OUT WHEN YOU HEAR SIMILAR   
   ACCOUNTS, OR WHEN YOU'RE UNDER HYPNOSIS WITH A SYMPATHETIC THERAPIST, OR   
   EVEN WHEN YOU SEE A PICTURE OF AN "ALIEN" IN ONE OF THE MANY POPULAR MAGAZINES   
   AND BOOKS ON UFO'S. IN A RECENT ROPER POLL OF NEARLY 6000 AMERICAN ADULTS,   
   SPECIALLY COMMISSIONED BY THOSE WHO ACCEPT THE ALIEN ABDUCTION STORY AT FACE   
   VALUE, 18 PERCENT REPORTED SOMETIMES WAKING UP PARALYZED, AWARE OF ONE OR   
   MORE STRANGE BEINGS IN THE ROOM. SOMETHING LIKE 13 PERCENT REPORTED ODD   
   EPISODES OF MISSING TIME, AND 10 PERCENT CLAIMED TO HAVE FLOWN THROUGH THE   
   AIR WITHOUT MECHANICAL ASSISTANCE. FROM THESE RESULTS, THE POLL'S SPONSORS   
   CONCLUDED THAT 2 PERCENT OF ALL AMERICANS HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED, MANY REPEATE-   
   EDLY, BY BEINGS FROM OTHER WORLDS. IF ALIENS ARE NOT PARTIAL TO AMERICANS,   
   THE NUMBER FOR THE WHOLE PLANET WOULD BE MORE THAN 100 MILLION PEOPLE. THIS   
   MEANS AN ABDUCTION EVERY FEW SECONDS. IT'S SURPRISING THAT MORE OF THE   
   NEIGHBORS HAVEN'T NOTICED. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? COULD ALL THESE PEOPLE BE   
   MISTAKEN, OR LYING, OR HALLUCINATING THE SAME OR A VERY SIMILAR STORY?   
   WHEN YOU TALK WITH THEM, MOST SEEM VERY SINCERE, ALTHOUGH IN THE GRIP OF   
   POWERFUL EMOTIONS. A FEW PSYCHIATRISTS WHO HAVE EXAMINED THEM FIND NO MORE   
   EVIDENCE OF PSYCHOPATHOLOGY THAN IN THE REST OF US. BUT COULD THERE REALLY   
   BE A MASSIVE ALIEN INVASION, REPUGNANT MEDICAL PROCEDURES PERFORMED ON   
   MILLIONS OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, AND HUMANS APPARENTLY USED   
   AS BREEDING STOCK OVER MANY DECADES AND ALL THIS NOT GENERALLY KNOWN AND   
   DEALT WITH BY RESPONSIBLE MEDIA AND THE GOVERNMENTS SWORN TO PROTECT THE   
   LIVES AND WELL BEING OF THEIR CITIZENS? WHY SHOULD BEINGS SO ADVANCED IN   
   PHYSICS AND ENGINEERING CROSSING VAST INTERSTELLAR DISTANCES, WALKING   
   LIKE GHOSTS THROUGH WALLS BE SO BACKWARD WHEN IT COMES TO BIOLOGY? WHY   
   GO TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF REPEATED SEXUAL ENCOUNTERS BETWEEN ALIENS AND   
   HUMANS? WHY NOT STEAL A FEW EGG AND SPERM CELLS, READ THE FULL GENETIC   
   CODE AND THEN MANUFACTURE AS MANY COPIES WITH AS MANY GENETIC VARIATIONS   
   AS YOU LIKE? EVEN WE HUMANS WHO CANNOT QUICKLY CROSS INTERSTELLAR SPACE   
   OR SLITHER THROUGH WALLS ARE ABLE TO CLONE CELLS. THE PREOCCUPATION WITH   
   REPRODUCTION IN THESE ACCOUNTS RAISES A WARNING FLAG ESPECIALLY CONSID-   
   ERING THE UNEASY BALANCE BETWEEN SEXUAL FREEDOM AND REPRESSION THAT HAS   
   ALWAYS CHARACTERIZED THE HUMAN CONDITION, AND THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN   
   A TIME FRAUGHT WITH NUMEROUS GHASTLY ACCOUNTS, BOTH TRUE AND FALSE, OF   
   CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE. THE POLLSTERS NEVER ACTUALLY ASKED WHETHER THEIR   
   SUBJECTS HAD BEEN ABDUCTED BY ALIENS; THEY DEDUCED IT: THOSE WHO'VE   
   EVER AWAKENED SENSING STRANGE PRESENCES AROUND THEM, EVER UNACCOUNTABLY   
   SEEMED TO FLY THROUGH THE AIR, AND SO ON, HAVE THEREFORE BEEN ABDUCTED   
   BY ALIENS. THE CONCLUSION THAT MILLIONS OF AMERICANS HAVE BEEN SO   
   ABDUCTED SEEMS EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL. STILL, AT LEAST HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE,   
   BELIEVING THEY HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED, HAVE SOUGHT OUT SYMPATHETIC THERAPISTS   
   OR JOINED ABDUCTEE SUPPORT GROUPS. SO WHICH IS MORE LIKELY THAT WE'RE   
   UNDERGOING A MASSIVE BUT GENERALLY OVER LOOKED INVASION BY ALIEN SEXUAL   
   ABUSERS, OR THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME INTERNAL MENTAL STATE THEY   
   DO NOT UNDERSTAND? ADMITTEDLY, WE'RE VERY IGNORANT BOTH ABOUT EXTRATERR-   
   ESTRIAL BEINGS, IF ANY, AND ABOUT HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY. BUT IF THESE REALLY   
   WERE THE ONLY TWO ALTERNATIVES, WHICH WOULD YOU PICK? IT'S CURIOUS THAT   
   EMOTIONS CAN RUN SO HIGH ON A MATTER ABOUT WHICH WE KNOW SO LITTLE. AFTER   
   ALL, EITHER HYPOTHESIS EXTRATERRESTRIAL INVASION OR AN EPIDEMIC OF   
   HALLUCINATIONS TEACHES US SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY OUGHT TO KNOW ABOUT.   
   MAYBE THE REASON FOR SUCH STRONG FEELINGS IS THAT BOTH ALTERNATIVES HAVE   
   EXTREMELY UNPLEASANT IMPLICATIONS. THE FIRST ALIEN ABDUCTION STORY IN THE   
   MODERN GENRE BEGAN WITH BETTY AND BARNEY HILL, A NEW HAMPSHIRE COUPLE SHE   
   A SOCIAL WORKER AND HE A POST OFFICE EMPLOYEE. DURING A LATE NIGHT DRIVE   
   IN 1961 THROUGH THE WHITE MOUNTAINS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, BETTY SPOTTED A   
   BRIGHT STAR LIKE UFO THAT SEEMED TO FOLLOW THEM. BECAUSE BARNEY FEARED IT   
   MIGHT HARM THEM, THEY LEFT THE MAIN HIGHWAY FOR NARROW MOUNTAIN ROADS.   
   THEY ARRIVED HOME TWO HOURS LATER THAN THEY HAD EXPECTED. THE EXPERIENCE   
   PROMPTED BETTY TO READ A BOOK CLAIMING THAT UFO'S WERE SPACESHIPS FROM   
   OTHER WORLDS. SOON AFTER, SHE HAD A REPETITIVE NIGHTMARE IN WHICH SHE AND   
   BARNEY WERE ABDUCTED AND TAKEN ABOARD THE UFO. BARNEY OVER HEARD HER   
   DESCRIBING THIS DREAM TO FRIENDS AND VOLUNTEER UFO INVESTIGATORS. SEVERAL   
   YEARS LATER, BARNEY'S PSYCHIATRIST REFERRED HIM TO A BOSTON HYPNOTHERAPIST,   
   BENJAMIN SIMON, M.D. BETTY CAME TO BE HYPNOTIZED AS WELL. UNDER HYPNOSIS   
   THEY SEPARATELY DESCRIBED A MEMORY OF THEIR TRIP HOME OF SEEING A UFO,   
   WATCHING IT LAND ON THE HIGHWAY AND BEING TAKEN PARTLY IMMOBILIZED INTO   
   THE UFO, WHERE LITTLE HUMANOID CREATURES SUBJECTED THEM TO UNCONVENTIONAL   
   MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS. I WAS GLAD TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SEVERAL   
   HOURS WITH MR. AND MRS. HILL, AND WITH DR. SIMON. THERE WAS NO MISTAKING   
   THE EARNESTNESS AND SINCERITY OF BETTY AND BARNEY, AND THEIR MIXED FEELINGS   
   ABOUT BECOMING PUBLIC FIGURES UNDER SUCH BIZARRE CIRCUMSTANCES. WITH THE   
   HILL'S PERMISSION, DR. SIMON PLAYED FOR ME SOME OF THE AUDIOTAPES OF THEIR   
   SESSIONS UNDER HYPNOSIS. BY FAR MY MOST STRIKING IMPRESSION WAS THE   
   ABSOLUTE TERROR IN BARNEY'S VOICE AS HE DESCRIBED RELIVED WOULD BE A BETTER   
   WORD THE ENCOUNTER. SIMON REJECTED THE NOTION THAT THEY WERE LYING. SO   
   WHAT'S LEFT? THE HILLS, SAID THEIR PSYCHIATRIST, HAD EXPERIENCED A SPECIES   
   OF "DREAM." IN 1894 THE INTERNATIONAL CENSUS OF WAKING HALLUCINATIONS WAS   
   PUBLISHED IN LONDON. FROM THAT TIME TO THIS, REPEATED SURVEYS HAVE SHOWN   
   THAT 10 PERCENT TO 25 PERCENT OF ORDINARY, FUNCTIONING PEOPLE HAVE   
   EXPERIENCED AT LEAST ONCE A VIVID HALLUCINATION HEARING A VOICE, USUALLY,   
   OR SEEING A FORM WHEN THERE'S NO ONE THERE. IN SOME CASES, THESE ARE   
   PROFOUND RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCES. PROBABLY A DOZEN TIMES SINCE THEIR DEATHS   
   I'VE HEARD MY MOTHER OR FATHER, IN AN ORDINARY, CONVERSATIONAL TONE OF   
   VOICE, CALL MY NAME. THEY HAD CALLED MY NAME OFTEN DURING MY LIFE WITH   
   THEM. I STILL MISS THEM SO MUCH THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM STRANGE TO ME THAT   
   MY BRAIN OCCASIONALLY WILL RETRIEVE A KIND OF LUCID RECOLLECTION OF   
   THEIR VOICES. SUCH HALLUCINATIONS MAY OCCUR TO PERFECTLY NORMAL PEOPLE   
   UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT THERE ARE VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH   
   THEY CAN BE ELICITED: BY A CAMPFIRE AT NIGHT, OR UNDER GREAT STRESS, OR   
   BY PROLONGED FASTING OR SLEEPLESSNESS OR SENSORY DEPRIVATION, OR THROUGH   
   HALLUCINOGENS SUCH AS LSD, PSILOCYBIN, MESCALINE, HASHISH OR ALCOHOL. THESE   
   HALLUCINATIONS HAVE A VIVID AND PALPABLE REALITY. HALLUCINATIONS ARE   
   COMMON. IF YOU HAVE ONE, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE CRAZY. INDEED, THEY ARE   
   SOUGHT OUT IN MANY CULTURES. WE SURELY WOULD BE MISSING SOMETHING IMPORTANT   
   ABOUT OUR OWN NATURE IF WE REFUSED TO FACE UP TO THE FACT THAT HAVING   
   HALLUCINATIONS ARE PART OF BEING HUMAN. BUT NONE OF THIS MAKES   
   HALLUCINATIONS REAL. MOST OF US REMEMBER BEING FRIGHTENED AT THE AGE OF 3   
   OR SO BY REAL SEEMING BUT WHOLLY IMAGINARY "MONSTER." IF WE'RE CAPABLE OF   
   CONJURING UP MONSTERS IN CHILDHOOD, WHY SHOULDN'T SOME OF US, AT LEAST ON   
   OCCASION, BE ABLE TO IMAGINE SIMILAR THINGS AS ADULTS? THERE'S A COMMON,   
   ALTHOUGH INSUFFICIENTLY WELL KNOWN, PSYCHOLOGICAL SYNDROME VERY MUCH LIKE   
   ALIEN ABDUCTION: MANY PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED SLEEP PARALYSIS. ON FALLING   
   ASLEEP OR WHEN WAKING UP-JUST FOR A FEW SECONDS, OR MAYBE FOR LONGER PERIODS   
   YOU SEEM TO BE PARALYZED AND ACUTELY ANXIOUS. YOU MAY FEEL A WEIGHT ON   
   YOUR CHEST, YOUR HEAT BEAT IS QUICK, YOUR BREATHING LABORED. YOU MAY   
   EXPERIENCE AUDITORY OR VISUAL HALLUCINATIONS-OF PEOPLE, DEMONS, GHOSTS,   
   ANIMALS OR BIRDS. IN THE RIGHT SETTING, THE EXPERIENCE CAN HAVE "THE FULL   
   FORCE AND IMPACT OF REALITY," ACCORDING TO DR. ROBERT BAKER, A PSYCHOLOGIST   
   AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCHY. SOMETIMES THERE'S A MARKED SEXUAL   
   COMPONENT TO THE HALLUCINATION. BAKER HAS FORCEFULLY ARGUED THAT THESE   
   COMMON SLEEP DISTURBANCES ARE BEHIND MANY IF NOT MOST OF THE ALIEN   
   ABDUCITON ACCOUNTS. HE AND OTHERS SUGGEST THAT SOME ABDUCTION CLAIMS ALSO   
   ARE MADE BY FANTASY PRONE INDIVIDUALS OR HOAXERS SEEKING FAME AND FORTUNE.   
   EVEN IF NO KNOWN HALLUCINATIONS WERE TO FIT THE ALIEN ABDUCTION PATTERN,   
   IT'S CERTAIN THAT HUMANS COMMONLY HALLUCINATE. THERE'S CONSIDERABLE DOUBT   
   ABOUT WHETHER EXTRATERRESTRIALS EXIST AND FREQUENTLY VISIT OUR PLANET. WE   
   MAY ARGUE ABOUT DETAILS, BUT THE ONE CATEGORY OF EXPLANATION SEEMS MUCH   
   BETTER SUPPORTED THAN THE OTHER. THE MAIN RESERVATION YOU MIGHT THEN   
   HAVE IS: WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE REPORT THIS PARTICULAR SET OF HALLUCINATIONS?   
   WHY LITTLE GRAY BEINGS AND FLYING SAUCERS AND SEXUAL MOLESTATION?   
   DEMONS, THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS TAUGHT, COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND HAVE   
   UNLAWFUL SEXUAL CONGRESS WITH WOMEN. ST. AUGUSTINE BELIEVED WITCHES WERE   
   THE OFFSPRING OF THESE FORBIDDEN UNIONS. IN HIS FAMOUS BULL OF 1484, POPE   
   INNOCENT VIII DECLARED: "IT HAS COME TO OUR EARS THAT MEMBERS OF BOTH   
   SEXES DO NOT AVOID TO HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH EVIL ANGELS, INCUBI, AND   
   SUCCUBI, AND THAT BY THEIR SORCERIES, AND BY THEIR INCANTATIONS, CHARMS,   
   AND CONJURATIONS, THEY SUFFOCATE, EXTINGUISH, AND CAUSE TO PERISH THE   
   BIRTHS OF WOMEN," AS WELL AS CAUSE SUNDRY OTHER CALAMITIES. WITH THIS   
   BULL, INNOCENT INITIATED THE SYSTEMATIC ACCUSATION, TORTURE AND EXECUTION   
   OF COUNTLESS "WITCHES" ALL OVER EUROPE. TWO INQUISITORS APPOINTED BY   
   INNOCENT DECLARED: "DEVILS...BUSY THEMSELVES BY INTERFERING WITH THE   
   PROCESS OF NORMAL COPULATION AND CONCEPTION, BY OBTAINING HUMAN SEMEN,   
   AND THEMSELVES TRANSFERING IT. "THE OFFSPRING OF THESE DEMONIC UNIONS   
   ARE ALSO, WHEN THEY GROW UP, VISITED BY DEVILS-ALTHOUGH NOT ALL WITCHES   
   ARE CREATED THIS WAY. AND WITCHES WERE WELL KNOWN TO FLY THROUGH THE   
   AIR. THERE IS NO SPACESHIP, BUT MOST OF THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS OF THE   
   ALIEN ABDUCTION STORY ARE HERE. IN 1645, A CORNISH TEENAGER, ANNE JEFFRIES,   
   WAS FOUND GROGGY AND CRUMPLED ON THE FLOOR. MUCH LATER, SHE RECALLED   
   BEING ATTACKED BY LITTLE MEN, CARRIED PARALYZED TO A CASTLE IN THE AIR,   
   SEDUCED AND RETURNED HOME. SHE CALLED THE LITTLE MEN FAIRIES. THEY   
   RETURNED TO TORMENT HER. THE NEXT YEAR SHE WAS ARRESTED FOR WITCHCRAFT.   
   FAIRIES TRADITIONALLY HAVE MAGICAL POWERS AND CAN CAUSE PARALYSIS BY THE   
   MEREST TOUCH. THE ORDINARY PASSAGE OF TIME IS SLOWED IN FAIRYLAND. FAIRIES   
   HAVE SEX WITH HUMANS AND CARRY OFF BABIES FROM THEIR CRADLES. IF ANNE   
   JEFFRIES HAD KNOWN ABOUT ALIENS RATHER THAN FAIRIES, AND UFOS RATHER THAN   
   CASTLES IN THE AIR, WOULD HER STORY HAVE BEEN DISTINGUISHABLE FROM   
   THE ONE "ABDUCTEES" TELL? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE IN ALL TIMES AND PLACES   
   OCCASIONALLY EXPERIENCE VIVID, REALISTIC HALLUCINATIONS, OFTEN WITH   
   SEXUAL CONTENT - WITH THE DETAILS FILLED IN BY THE PREVAILING CULTURAL   
   IDIOMS, SUCKED OUT OF THE ZEITGEIST? WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS THAT GODS REGULARLY   
   COME DOWN TO EARTH, WE HALLUCINATE GODS; WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT DEMONS,   
   IT'S INCUBI AND SUCCUBI; WHEN FAIRIES ARE WIDELY BELIEVED, WE SEE FAIRIES;   
   WHEN THE OLD MYTHS FADE AND WE BEGIN THINKING THAT ALIEN BEINGS ARE   
   PLAUSIBLE, THEN THAT'S WHERE OUR HYPNAGOGIC IMAGERY TENDS. SNATCHES OF   
   SONGS OR FOREIGN LANGUAGES, IMAGES AND STORIES WE WITNESSED IN OUR   
   CHILDHOOD CAN BE ACCURATELY RECALLED DECADES LATER WITHOUT ANY CONSCIOUS   
   MEMORY OF THE SOURCE. IN OUR EVERYDAY LIFE, WE EFFORTLESSLY INCORPORATE   
   CULTURAL MOTIFS AND NORMS AND MAKE THEM OUR OWN. TODAY ALIENS ARE THE   
   SUBJECT OF INNUMERABLE SCIENCE-FICTION STORIES AND NOVELS. UFOS ARE A   
   REGULAR FEATURE OF WEEKLY NEWSPAPERS DEDICATED TO FALSIFICATION AND   
   MYSTIFICATION. ONE OF THE HIGHEST-GROSSING MOTION PICTURES OF ALL TIME   
   IS ABOUT ALIENS VERY MUCH LIKE THOSE DESCRIBED BY ABDUCTEES. ALIEN   
   ABDUCTION STORIES WERE COMPARATIVELY RARE UNTIL 1987, WHEN A PURPORTED   
   FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT WITH A HAUNTING COVER PAINTING OF AN "ALIEN" BECAME   
   A BEST-SELLER. IT IS STRIKING HOW SIMILAR MANY OF THE ABDUCTION ACCOUNTS   
   ARE NOW, AND HOW LITTLE WE HEAR ABOUT INCUBI AND FAIRIES. BUT IT MIGHT   
   NOT BE ALTOGETHER SURPRISING THAT, IN OUR TIME AND SOCIETY, SHORT, GRAY   
   ALIENS WITH BREEDING PROGRAMS ON THEIR MINDS ARE WHAT WE MAINLY REACH FOR   
   WHEN WE MUST DESCRIBE THESE HALLUCINATIONS. NO ONE WOULD BE HAPPIER   
   THAN I WOULD IF WE HAD REAL EVIDENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE. BUT THE   
   ISSUE COMES DOWN TO THE QUALITY OF THE EVIDENCE. PROPONENTS OF ALIEN   
      
   --- Renegade vY2Ka2   
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