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|    John Short to All    |
|    SUBJECT: Alien Abductions by Dr Karla Tu    |
|    23 May 25 06:26:15    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 153.fnbb-ufo@1:3634/12 2c9583e0       PID: Synchronet 3.18a-Linux May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.11-Linux r3.173 May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       COLS: 80       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor $Revision: 1.174 $       SUBJECT: Alien Abductions by Dr Karla Turner FILE: UFO1017              PART 3                A regression session was arranged, and in the course of the       hypnosis, he was asked to look at that childhood experience. What he       recalled was an abduction in which he and his grandmother were taken       to a spacecraft in the company of reptilian aliens. He remembered the       aliens telling his grandmother that they were interested in learning       about her knowledge of medicinal herbs.               And they offered to exchange medical information of their own.               They gave the boy and the grandmother a liquid to drink,       explaining that it was beneficial and would make the grandmother       feel young and attractive again. So both of them drank the liquid,       and the man remembered seeing his grandmother indeed looking much       younger. That was the extent of his recollection.               Both he and Ms. Bartholic, who was conducting the regression,       were puzzled by this, because there was nothing in the episode to       account for the guilt he had felt about the grandmother's death. So       Ms. Bartholic deepened the man's trance level and asked him to look       at it again, with much clearer vision. And what he then recalled       was much more disturbing.                      * * * * *               PASSAGES REMOVED AS CONSIDERED NOT FIT FOR TRANSMISSION               OVER HAM PACKET NETWORK. (1)               * * * * *                             That must have been the wrong thing to say, because the       reptilian became very angry and threatened her. "You will die for       that!" he told her, and the two people were returned to the bedroom       from which they'd been taken. The next morning, the grandmother       told the little boy that the devil had been there the night before,       and that was when she insisted upon being taken home. And, as it       turned out, she did die immediately thereafter.               This, then, was the cause of the man's lifelong sense of guilt       about her death. CENSORED (2) , and her       death had followed shortly after. But none of this story would have       emerged if Ms. Bartholic had done as most investigators do and       stopped the regression after uncovering the story about the exchange       of medicinal knowledge.               There are other cases in our files that show a similar deception       at work in the initial hypnotic recall. We cannot trust that first       memory, it is clear, for like so much else in the abduction       experience, there may well be further maskings of events.               Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the       alien interaction, we should ask, do enlightened beings need to use       the cover of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to paralyze       us and render us helpless to resist? Do angels need to steal our       fetuses? Do they need to manipulate our children's genitals and       probe our rectums? Are fear, pain and deception consistent with high       spiritual motives?                     Encounter Phenomena Defy "Set Pattern"; by Karla Turner.               It is a myth that alien abductions of humans follow a set       pattern or agenda. Perhaps the best-known proponent of this theory       is Budd Hopkins, who in his books made the genetics and cross-       breeding scenario familiar to the public. Yet when you read back       through those books, you'll notice that several of the alien       encounters seem to have very little apparent connection to an       interest in breeding or DNA. And even Hopkins, in the past couple       of years, has had to expand his theory to include a definite alien       interest in some other things, such as pleasure and pain in humans.               Other well-known UFO researchers also harbor restrictive       theories about the abduction phenomenon. Jacques Vallee, David       Jacobs, Whitley Strieber, Brad Steiger, John Lear, Raymond Fowler,       Jenny Randles, Kevin Randle, John Keel and other writers hold a       diversity of intelligent, often ingenious, theories, yet each makes       the same error. They ignore parts of the abductions evidence--       whatever details don't support their ideas.              INADEQUATE THEORIES.               Yet it must be clear that any present theory which cannot       account for all the known evidence is not acceptable. At best, it       can be misleading, especially for victims of abductions who turn to       these prominent researchers seeking answers.               A case in point occurred during a conversation I had with a       prominent researcher in 1989. In his lectures, this researcher       always said that he had certain ways of testing the validity of       potential new abduction cases, and one of those ways was the       presence of particular scars on the victims' bodies. I questioned       him about a different kind of scar, one which I knew often appeared       on abductees of my own acquaintance, and the researcher denied that       such a mark showed up in his cases.        "Are you sure?" I asked incredulously. "This mark is pretty       common around here, and I'd think it would show up in other places,       too. In fact, I know it has.        "No," he insisted, shaking his head, "the only marks I find are       like the ones I've already described."        "And this other mark hasn't shown up at all?" I asked.        "No," he repeated.        "Not even once?" I persisted.        "Well," he said reluctantly, lowering his voice, "there have       been a couple of instances. That child I talked about tonight, she       had two of those marks, and I think there was another case. But       they're so rare that I have to ignore them. When you have two       hundred cases with Scar A and only two cases with Scar B, you go       with numbers."               And that was the message he delivered, to an audience where       anxious abductees were made to wonder if their anomalous marks meant       anything after all, or if, as so many of their friends seemed to       think, they were delusions of a troubled mind.              'NO SINGLE PATTERN'.               In truth, however, although there are recurrent events in the       abduction phenomenon, there is no single pattern or structure. And       until we know what all the events mean, we can't afford to ignore any       of them.               What is one to make, for instance, of an ET-human encounter in       which two of the four aliens assisted the abductee in preparing a       roast for dinner? Granted, other events occurred in this case, but       the dinner was indeed cooked, served and eaten by the abductee's       family less than two hours after the ETs departed.               Other details of this encounter included the manipulation of the       abductee's neck, "for the purpose of instruction," and a discussion       of genetically-stored memories and knowledge that can be tapped open       in humans. But there was no medical exam, no cross-breeding       activity, and no warnings of coming catastrophe, all of which are       events that have been used to construct abduction theories. I know       this to be true, because it happened to me.              HUMAN DUPLICATES.               Another anomalous event involves the duplication or replacement       of the human by an alien counterpart. In one instance, a young man       and his fiancee were in their car when a "shimmering force" enveloped       him. He passed out, but moments later he began to move, acting and       talking entirely different. His fiancee became terrified when he       tried to drag her out into the dark back yard, where he told her       "Something wants to see you there." And only when a friend drove       into the yard did the young man return to normal, with no memory of       his aberrant behavior during the past ten minutes.               Under hypnotic regression, the fiancee described the young man       as being kept in the car while the "other one" took his form and       tried to control her. She called the "other one" a "hologram" and       consistently referred to it as "it," not "him." In fact, she said       she struggled to get away from "it" and back to the car where "the       real" young man was still waiting.               Under separate regression, the young man recalled his version of       the evening and said that at a certain point he was "turned off" and       "unplugged," yet he couldn't say what sort of power was then       operating his body.       End of part 3                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *        **********************************************       John       telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23       http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080       --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux        * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001       SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30       SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 220/6 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/114 317 426 428 470 664 700 705 240/1120 5832 250/1 263/1       SEEN-BY: 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 320/219       SEEN-BY: 322/757 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256 1124 5858 633/280       SEEN-BY: 712/848 1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105 3634/0 12 56 57 60 5020/400       SEEN-BY: 5020/8912 5054/30 5075/35       PATH: 3634/12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426           |
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