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|    John Short to All    |
|    SUBJECT: Alien Abductees by Dr Karla Tur    |
|    21 May 25 06:58:20    |
      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 151.fnbb-ufo@1:3634/12 2c92e863       PID: Synchronet 3.18a-Linux May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.11-Linux r3.173 May 23 2020 GCC 7.5.0       COLS: 80       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor $Revision: 1.174 $       SUBJECT: Alien Abductees by Dr Karla Turner FILE: UFO1015              PART 1                     "Alien Abductions in the Gingerbread House"; by Dr. Karla Turner.               World renowned UFO researcher Jacques Vallee has repeatedly       referred to the similarities between UFO and abduction reports and       the stories of folklore and fairy tales. I disagree with Dr.       Vallee on many, many points of UFOlogy, but here I will grant that       there is one fairy tale which does have something important to tell       us about the alien abduction phenomenon. It is not, however, what       Dr. Vallee might think.               The story of Hansel and Gretel presents a lesson that every       abductee should heed. These innocent children, wandering lost and       frightened in the forest, came upon a gingerbread house that seemed       to offer them shelter and sustenance. The owner of the house, a       wizened old woman, was frightening to them at first, but their       hunger pushed the children to accept her offer to come inside and be       fed.               And so they entered the gingerbread house and promptly became       the old woman's captives. Kept in cages, the two children were       abundantly fed. It was not for their benefit, though. In fact,       they were being fattened up for the oven! The deceptive nature of       the gingerbread house and of the old woman's offer of food worked       quite well.               It is the deceptive quality of this story that holds a warning       for humans who are abducted by aliens. Like Hansel and Gretel, we       are initially terrified by our encounter with aliens, but in too       many cases, our fear is overcome by the words of our abductors and       by the thoughts and experiences they present to us.               I, too, am an abductee, and my quest to discover the nature of       my own experiences led me into abduction research over the past four       years. Working with many other abduction cases, I have learned just       how basic the deception of alien actions can be.               My family and I also delved into our own experiences, both past       and present. Barbara Bartholic, a dedicated UFO investigator from       Tulsa, Oklahoma, worked closely with us and helped us fill in the       gaps in our recollections of strange encounters through hypnotic       regression. Ms. Bartholic, by the way, began her own research as an       assistant to Jacques Vallee in cattle mutilation investigations, so       her expertise in ufology is wide-ranging. I have recently written a       book, Into the Fringe, about the startling and often disturbing       results of our personal investigations, and it will be published by       the Berkley Publishing Group in November 1992.               But my interest soon expanded past the merely personal, and for       the past several years I have worked as Ms. Bartholic's research       associate, exploring literally hundreds of sighting and encounter       cases with her. And what I've learned through this work has raised       far more questions than answers. In fact, it has taught me to be       wary of those researchers who do claim to have answers. I have yet       to hear of a single theory or explanation that accounts for all of       the data.               Some researchers have pointed out patterns of events in the       abduction experience, such as the physical examination, the taking of       sperm and ova, and the later presentation of a hybrid baby to the       abductee. Other patterns include the training of the abductee in some       way and the delivery of a warning of some upcoming global disaster.       Yes, these events are frequently reported, as one researcher has said       in boringly repetitious accounts, and it is tempting to think that       the explanation for alien abductions may lie in these patterns.               So the researchers announce that the problem is solved. The       aliens are doing cross-breeding experiments, UFOlogists tell us.       Never mind the overwhelming evidence against the viable       commingling of different species. Or, we are told, the aliens are       here to save us from destroying ourselves and our planet through       violence, drug use, epidemic disease, pollution, and resource       depletion. Never mind that these problems have grown worse, not       better, since the ETs began visiting us.               Or, most infuriating of all, we are assured that there are no       actual aliens, that our experiences spring from our own subconscious       turmoil or from our need for fantasy fulfillment. Never mind that       many abductees are young children, too young to be suffering from       such psychological disturbances. Well, then, the resourceful       researcher counters, the imagined aliens must spring from some       collective human super-psyche that is mirroring our failures and       dangers back to us. This particular theory adores the archetypal       gray ET, because it resembles some sickly fetal form of humanity and       must therefore be an objectified warning of what our species is in       danger of becoming if we don't mend our ways. Never mind that many,       many abductees have no dealing with grays, but instead are       victimized by robust reptoids and insectoids. Not to mention the       totally human-looking blond beauties and black-headed, black-robed       clan with the widow's peak hairline.               No, too many researchers seem to find a theory and cling to it       in spite of data that contradict it. And it is the ideas of these       researchers that dominate ufology. But if the public had access to       the raw data, to the first-hand reports of abductees, especially       those unfamiliar with UFO-oriented books, magazines, and lecturers,       they would find a much less neatly organized set of patterns. These       "virgin" cases--people uncontaminated by ufological literature       supply a staggering picture of human-alien contact events.               What follows here is an overview of these "virgin" reports, a       list of recurrent experiences that taken together gives us a close-up       view of what the aliens are doing here on earth. This data doesn't       tell us for certain just what sort of creatures the aliens are, or       what their purpose here may be. But it does tell us what humans are       experiencing and what they are observing in the actions and       capabilities of the aliens. Every detail in the following list has       been reported by more than one abductee, and in many cases the       details have turned up quite frequently.              ABDUCTION "CHECKLIST".               If these reports can be believed--and there is no reason to       doubt the honesty of the reporters--the abduction phenomenon       includes the following details.               -- Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.               -- Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to       us in any number of guises, and shapes.               -- Aliens can take us--our consciousness--out of our physical       bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own       entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities       before returning our consciousness to our bodies.               -- Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can       make themselves only partially visible.               -- Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the       well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include       single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three- and       four-fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.               -- Females abductees often suffer serious gynecological       problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems       lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breasts and uterus, and to       hysterectomies.               -- Aliens take body fluids from our necks, spines, blood       veins, joints such as knees and wrists, and other places. They also       inject unknown fluids into various parts of our bodies.               -- A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious       illnesses they didn't have before their encounters. These have led       to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors       can't identify.               -- Some abductees experience a degeneration of their mental,       social, and spiritual well-being. Excessive behavior frequently       erupts, such as drug abuse, alcoholism, overeating, and promiscuity.       Strange obsessions develop and cause the disruption of normal life       and the destruction of personal relationships.               -- Aliens show a great interest in adult sexuality, child       sexuality, and in inflicting physical pain on abductees.               -- Abductees recall being instructed and trained by aliens.       This training may be in the form of verbal or telepathic lessons,       slide shows, or actual hands-on instruction in the operation of alien       technology.               -- Abductees report being taken to facilities in which they       encounter not only aliens but also normal-looking humans, sometimes       in military uniforms, working with the alien captors.               -- Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien       during an experience, not just the grays. Every possible combination       of gray, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen       during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same       facility.               -- Abductees--"virgin" cases--report being taken to       underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures,       nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid       filled with parts of human bodies.       End of part 1                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. 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