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|    29 Jan 26 07:00:27    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 429.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2de08388       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       COLS: 80       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor master/a2a9dc027       SUBJECT: KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL FILE: UFO1290                     NEWS CLIPPING SERVICE              DATE OF ARTICLE: May 6, 1989       SOURCE OF ARTICLE: Bulletin       LOCATION: Latrobe, Pennsylvania       BYLINE: Kim Opatka       ========================================================       (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service       All Rights Reserved.       THIS FILE WAS PROVIDED BY THE UFO NEWSCLIPPING SERVICE       AND PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION       SERVICE       DENVER, COLORADO       NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE       OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK       ========================================================              KECKSBURG CRASH CONTROVERSIAL              By Kim Opatka       Bulletin Staff Writer               This final article in a six-part series on unidentified       flying objects (UFOS) examines one of the most talked about and       controversial incidents in the area, what has been termed a       meteorite by some and an alien craft by others, which crashed in       Kecksburg December 9, 1965.        The object was first seen streaking across the sky, with       thousands from Michigan to New York witnessing a brilliant ball       of fire which left a smoke trail, visible for about 20 minutes       after it passed.        Many, including pilots who observed it, thought it was an       aircraft which was on fire. Reports of debris from the object       were made in many states, and an Ohio fire department was called       to extinguish 10 small fires in an area where witnesses said they       saw flaming fragments falling from the sky.        Shock waves were reported by pilots, and a seismograph near       Detroit recorded a shock, wrote investigator Stan Gordon, of       Pennsylvania Association for the Study of the Unexplained (PASU)       in a recent journal article. The crash has been a pet project of       the Greensburg man "since the night it happened," he said, noting       he is still trying to obtain information on the incident.        Although the military eventually labeled the object a       meteor, as did the Associated Press account published in The       Bulletin the day after the crash, Gordon says recent evidence,       including the discovery of a man who saw the object, supports the       idea that the object was a true UFO.        "I was a teen-ager then," said John (not his real name).       "It was in the early part of December and there was a little snow       and a little rain, and mud."        He was called to the scene after the 4:44 p.m. crash as a       fireman from the Latrobe area, to search for the crashed object.        "I had seen a fiery object in the sky. I can't say exactly       which direction but it was coming from the north. It was not too       much longer and the fire whistle went off," he said. "I answered       the call and was told they needed a search team because at the       time they believed it was a downed aircraft. And I thought, 'My       God, this is what I have just seen'."        When firemen arrived at the Kecksburg Fire Hall, maps were       reviewed and groups were given sections to search.        "It was getting semi-dusk and we had flashlights. We were       taken in the back of a truck and dropped off and told to go 'this       way' which we did. I was not on the initial contact team.       Another team found the object.        "It was definitely, unequivocally, positively, absolutely no       aircraft, plane, helicopter or rocket, at least not to my       knowledge. It was in an area that was part field and part woods       and we went down to investigate," he said.        "We found the object had crashed at a 30 to 40 degree angle,       and had broken off numerous tree branches in its impact path. My       initial reaction was 'This is no airplane.' I observed no       shrapnel, no breaking up of the fuselage. It was one solid       piece, no doors, no windows.        "Preliminary searches found no bodies or casualties. It was       shaped like an acorn, laying on its side, like the acorn nut is       in its shell when it's on a tree," he explained. "I've been a       machinist for 24 years and I've worked with a tremendous amount       of different metals, and I have never seen any type of metal that       looked even close to that."        John said the object was not broken, "not even cracked, just       dented a bit. It did not give off smoke, steam or vapors, at       least none that we could see."        Reports from neighbors in the area said it had given off a       faint trail of blue smoke, which disappeared after the crash.        He described the portion visible as between eight and 10       feet long, six and seven feet across, and said a man of average       height would probably have had little trouble standing up inside       it. The crater it plowed into the ground was "rectangular in       shape."        John said the state police were there and the area was soon       quarantined.        "They drove us out. It was late at night when we finally       got back to the fire hall and it had been completely taken over       by the military. They were carrying in large pieces of       equipment, radios and such, and they had armed guards posted       outside so nobody could get in or out. The firemen were thrown       out. We weren't even allowed in to use the bathroom.        "The military had control of the whole operation," John       recalled. "After a while we saw a flat bed truck come by with       some other military equipment, a crane or something.        "It was not too much longer, an hour, an hour and a half,       when the trucks came back and there was a large object on the       back of the flat bed, covered by a tarp, with military escorts       front and back. I got the feeling that if you had stepped on the       road you were dead meat. They weren't stopping for anything."        Although the object was later said to be a meteorite, John       doesn't buy that explanation.        "It had writing on it, not like your average writing, but       more like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. It had sort of a       bumper on it, like a ribbon about six to 10 inches wide, and it       stood out. It was elliptical the whole way around and the       writing was on this bumper. It's nothing like I've ever seen,       and I'm an avid reader. I read a lot of books on Egypt, the       Incas, Peruvians, Russians and I've never to this day come across       anything that looked like that."        John notes that later it was denied that the object was even       a meteorite, and the military "denied they were even in the area.       But I know there were Air Force and Army personnel involved. It       was like they just came out of the woodwork."        Gordon's research has revealed that one of the military       groups involved was most likely to be the 662nd Radar Squadron,       based at the Oakdale Armory, located near Greater Pittsburgh       International Airport.        The squadron was found to be under the control of the       Aerospace Defense Command, and attempts to get information on the       Kecksburg crash, through the Freedom of Information Act, have not       provided much to go on.        One response said there had been no record of the squadron       being activated on that date, Gordon said, wondering how so much       equipment and personnel could be activated while the monthly       report showed no entry on Dec. 9.        Through his research, Gordon says he knows the Air Force was       still investigating UFO cases at the public level then, and that       it was apparently the Project Blue Book staff which contacted the       662nd squadron. Subsequent reports have led him to theorize that       even the Project Blue Book staff was not made aware of objects       which could "affect national security," and that some       intelligence teams investigated crashes of "foreign space       vehicles."        Another strange occurrence that night, Gordon said, was       reports by some civilians that radiation was released. He       explained that some children playing in the area had reportedly       been told by military personnel that that was a possibility, and       men in decontamination suits were allegedly seen at the site       later the next day.        Although he has considered the possibility that the object       could have been space debris or a test device, Gordon says       documents and evidence obtained in the last few years lead more       in the direction of it being a "true UFO."        John concurs.        "It was definitely not of this planet. At the time I was a       skeptical teen, but when you see something like that you don't       forget it. When you get called out like that from the fire       department you think you're going out looking for an aircraft of       some sort, not a UFO.        "I'll never forget it. I still want to know what the hell       it was."              =================================================================       8/89                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *        **********************************************       Richy,       telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23       http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080       IRC www.irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs       --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32        * Origin: Rick's BBS - telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23 (1:3634/60)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001       SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30       SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/112 134 206 317 426 428 470 664 700 705 240/1120 5832       SEEN-BY: 250/1 263/1 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125       SEEN-BY: 301/1 320/219 322/757 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256       SEEN-BY: 460/1124 5858 633/280 712/848 1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105       SEEN-BY: 3634/0 12 56 57 60 61 5020/400 8912 5054/30 5075/35       PATH: 3634/60 12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426           |
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