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|    Rich Snively to All    |
|    SUBJECT: UFOs COULD ESTABLISH SCIENTIFIC    |
|    29 Jan 26 06:59:03    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 426.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2de08331       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       COLS: 80       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: ASCII 1       NOTE: Synchronet msgeditor master/a2a9dc027              SUBJECT: UFOs COULD ESTABLISH SCIENTIFIC BASIS, BIBLE FILE: UFO1287                     NEWS CLIPPING SERVICE              DATE OF ARTICLE: April 22, 1989       SOURCE OF ARTICLE: Post       LOCATION: Palm Beach, Florida       BYLINE: George W. Cornell       ========================================================       (C) Copyright 1989 ParaNet Information Service       All Rights Reserved.       THIS FILE WAS PROVIDED BY THE UFO NEWSCLIPPING SERVICE       AND PREPARED BY PARANET ALPHA -- PARANET INFORMATION       SERVICE       PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE BBS       PARANET ALPHA       DENVER, COLORADO       NOTE: THESE FILES ARE NOT FOR REDISTRIBUTION OUTSIDE       OF THE PARANET INFORMATION SERVICE NETWORK       ========================================================              PASTOR: UFOS COULD ESTABLISH SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR BIBLICAL       EVENTS              By George W. Cornell       The Associated Press              Credit: B. Pratt               NEW YORK--Smile indulgently about it if so inclined. That's       OK with the Rev. Barry H. Downing. But he firmly maintains that       UFOs are real and that they have key religious significance.        He says recognizing the existence and operations of these       unidentified flying objects could do much to strengthen faith and       renew confidence in biblical accounts.        "It would establish scientific plausibility for the whole       biblical field," he says. "It would reinforce faith and make it       possible in a scientific context."              THE GOVERNMENT'S EFFECT        Downing, a Presbyterian pastor with a scientific bent, says       government equivocation has caused skepticism about UFOs and so       he expects some scoffing at his views.        "You have to have a good humor about it," he said in an       interview. "I can't prove I'm right, but there's lots of       evidence for it, and until it wins out, some people are just       going to have to laugh."        He theorizes that activities of UFO borne "higher beings" or       "angels," likely from another dimension rather than other       planets, are indicated in biblical events ranging from guiding       the Israelites from Egypt to Christ's ascension.              A MIDDLE GROUND        He said postulating such activities in forming biblical       faith would open a middle ground between fundamentalist       literalism and liberal theology's "demythologizing" of       supernatural events as only symbolic.        "It would cut down the distance between liberals and       fundamentalists, and serve as a mediating force between the two       extremes," he said.        "The mythological concepts would have to be reexamined,       which would be important for the liberal wing. The conservative       wing, which stresses certainty and wants everything locked up       tight, also would be impacted.        "This would mean unlocking things."              DETAILING HIS IDEAS        Downing, 50, an Endwell, N.Y., pastor, has a bachelor's       degree in physics and, after having completed studies at       Princeton Theological Seminary, got a doctorate at the University       of Edinburgh in Scotland on relations between science and       religion.        He details his ideas about UFOs and about eternity as a       coexisting universe, based on Einstein's relativity theory, in a       new paperback edition of his book, The Bible and Flying Saucers,       issued by Berkely Books.        "What is clear through the biblical material is that God's       will for the Jews, and eventually for all mankind, was 'revealed'       by beings from another world," he writes.        "Usually these beings looked very much like ordinary human       beings (they almost never have wings)...Once the 'package' of       biblical religion had been delivered, man became responsible for       the distribution of the contents..."              BIBLICAL INCIDENTS        Downing said a hovering, UFO like "cloud" by day, and       glowing "pillar of fire" by night guided the Israelites out of       Egypt, projecting some propulsive force that parted the Red Sea,       leading them for years across the desert.        Other events he sees as carried out by UFOs include:        The firelike phenomenon on Mount Sinai in which Moses       received the Ten Commandments, the Prophet Elijah taken to heaven       in a fiery chariot, the star of Bethlehem, the engulfing light of       Jesus' transfiguration, his being "lifted up" at his ascension       and the blinding visitation of Paul en route to Damascus.        "All these were UFO types of reports," Downing said.              GOVERNMENT 'COVER UP'        Downing, pastor for 22 years of Endwell's Northminster       Presbyterian Church, also is theological consultant to the Mutual       UFO Network, based in Seguin, Texas, and Fund for UFO Research,       based in Washington.        Recalling a 1969 government commission finding that Air       Force observations offered "insufficient evidence" to       substantiate UFOs, Downing said the government was "covering up"       and the full report never was released.        He displayed a 1975 letter from then Sen. Barry Goldwater,       R-Ariz., saying the material was being withheld as "above Top       Secret."        "If the government weren't lying in denying UFOs exist, we'd       have had a religious revolution starting 40 years ago," Downing       said. "It would not mean undermining biblical faith, but       reinterpreting it in light of UFO phenomena."              =================================================================              5/89                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo *        **********************************************       Richy,       telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23       http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080       IRC www.irccloud.com/irc/ricksbbs/channel/ricksbbs       --- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32        * Origin: Rick's BBS - telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23 (1:3634/60)       SEEN-BY: 1/120 18/0 50/22 105/81 106/201 123/0 126 180 525 755 3001       SEEN-BY: 123/3002 124/5016 128/187 129/14 305 153/757 7715 154/30       SEEN-BY: 154/110 203/0 218/700 221/0 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/112 134 206 317 426 428 470 664 700 705 240/1120 5832       SEEN-BY: 250/1 263/1 266/512 280/464 5003 5006 291/111 292/854 8125       SEEN-BY: 301/1 320/219 322/757 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 256       SEEN-BY: 460/1124 5858 633/280 712/848 1321 770/1 902/26 2320/105       SEEN-BY: 3634/0 12 56 57 60 61 5020/400 8912 5054/30 5075/35       PATH: 3634/60 12 222/2 263/1 280/464 460/58 229/426           |
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