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   SUBJECT: UFO Cover-Up Live Transcript                        FILE: UFO139   
      
   PART 2   
      
   Videotape of Hypnosis Sessions With Three UFO Abductees   
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   Mary Osnatto: Graphic artist in NYC.  Al Hassem: Works the 4pm to   
   midnight shift for the telephone co.  Lisa Salviano of Lake   
   Hiawatha, NJ is 24 yrs old and pregnant with her first child.  She   
   is a secretary in NJ.   
      
   The abductees reported small, ugly aliens with large gray heads and   
   big, black, slanted eyes, etc. who conducted medical procedures.   
   Afterward psychologist Dr. Reba Laibow was interviewed along with   
   Budd Hopkins author of Missing Time and Intruders.   
      
   Dr. Rima E. Laibow:  Skeptics say abduction reports are the result   
   of overly rich fantasy lives.  If that were the case, the reports   
   would be as diverse as peoples dreams.  Instead, we find striking   
   similarities in accounts from all kinds of people, from all walks   
   of life.  Post traumatic stress disorder does not occur unless   
   there has been external trauma like that which some Vietnam   
   veterans and assault or rape victims experience. But many abductees   
   show the serious and disabling affects of helplessness and   
   violation.  With proper treatment, these symptoms can be relieved.   
      
   Budd Hopkins:  In 25% of the abduction cases, there is no memory   
   loss at all.  What makes the abduction reports believable is the   
   commonalty - the cluster of similar recollections in cases from all   
   over the world.  They notice a period of "missing time" which they   
   cannot explain, there is a lot of fear, terror - sometimes about a   
   remembered place.  There are strange lights they describe in a   
   similar way.  The descriptions of the craft, its interior and   
   occupants are described in extraordinarily similar ways.  They also   
   describe the medical procedures that occur in very much the same   
   way.  The sad thing is that the abductors are not interested in   
   communicating with our minds but in the physical state of our bodies.   
      
      
   July 1947  Crashed UFO With Dead Aliens Recovered in Roswell   
   New Mexico   
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   Bill Moore, co-author of The Roswell Incident and physicist   
   Stanton Friedman were interviewed.  Personal testimony from about   
   100 people have been obtained.  One of the most important was Bill   
   Brazel whose father managed the land where the incident took place.   
   Apparently, the UFO got caught in a bad storm.  The next day,   
   Brazels father went out to check for property damage and found the   
   wreckage of a strange craft that fanned out for about half a mile.   
   About two mi. from the site, dead alien bodies were found.  "We got   
   reports that they appeared to be small, humanoid bodies with large,   
   hairless heads, wearing one piece, seamless gray clothing.  The Air   
   force recovered the bodies and took them away for autopsy.  We can   
   prove that the story was covered up at the highest level and given   
   a security classification above top secret."   
      
   One of the first people on the scene to investigate was Major Jesse   
   Marcel.  Lets meet his son Dr. Jesse Marcel who was 12 years old at   
   the time.  "My father came home with his car loaded with debris and   
   he, my mother and I sorted through the stuff.  There was a   
   foil-like sheathing alloy.  It was metallic and looked like the skin   
   of an aircraft.  Also there was an "I" beam about 1 «' in length, «"   
   across.  The inner surface had hieroglyphics or Egyptian-like symbols   
   on it.  I held the material in my hand.  It was not from this earth   
   or this universe.  That what I think. We are not alone."  The   
   debris was taken from the house to Carswell AFB and never seen again.   
   End of part 2   
      
           
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