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   Message 224 of 366   
   Kurt Snelling to All   
   SUBJECT: UFOs: ALIEN OR MAN-MADE?    
   14 Nov 25 06:46:57   
   
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   SUBJECT: UFOs: ALIEN OR MAN-MADE?                            FILE: UFO1192   
                             
                             
                          UFO's. Alien or Man Made   
                                    By   
                                 Al Pinto   
      
      
   First, I would like to introduce myself. I am not an airplane pilot. I am not   
   an astronaut, physicist, scientist, pscychologist, or any other so called   
   "accepted" authority on UFO's. I am however an ex-Navy Petty Officer with a   
   good amount of observation experience. I am also someone who is very   
   interested in the phenomenon. I have researched this subject for quite a while   
   now, because of what it might mean to us if the "truth" leaked out. Let me tell   
   you that there is a lot more to UFO's than you may think.   
      
   The governments of the world have been covering up everything that has to do   
   with UFO's. Why? It may be they feel that the sheer thought of an "alien"   
   culture infiltrating our world would cause mass hysteria. When I was a   
   teenager living in North Bergen, NJ (a town across the Hudson River, directly   
   across from NYC) hundreds of people saw what appeared to be a flying disk land   
   in what was then called Hudson County Park ( now named Braddock Park after   
   James J. Braddock, the boxer). It was said to blow out windows in a high rise   
   named the "Stonehenge". The only thing ever heard about it was a small blurb   
   in the local newspaper called the Dispatch. I became interested in the   
   phenomenon ever since. The authorities must have had one hell of a time   
   suppressing that sighting but, apparently were very succesful. Again I ask,   
   why?   
      
   Maybe these craft are some secret government project. There is a lot of   
    evidence to this that dates back to WWII. There is a report by Marshall   
    Yarrow, then then the Reuters special correspondant to Supreme H.Q. in   
    liberated Paris. This article was published in the South Wales Argus on   
    December 13, 1944. It stated, "The Germans have produced a 'secret' weapon in   
    keeping with the Christmas season. The new device, which is appaently an air   
    defense weapon, resembles the glass balls that adorn Christmas trees. T hey   
    have been seen hanging in the air over German territory,sometimes singly,   
   sometimes in clusters. They are colored silver and are appaently transparent."   
      
   Another article regarding the German's secret craft was released by the   
   Associated Press in the New York Herald Tribune dated January 2, 1945. It   
   said: "Now, it seems, the Nazis have thrown something new into the night   
   skiesover Germany. It is the weird, mysterious 'Foo Fighter' balls which race   
   alongside the wings of Beaufighters flying intruder missions over Germany.   
   Pilots have been encountering this eerie eapon for more than a month in their   
   night flights. No one apparently knows what this sky weapon is. The balls of   
   fire appear suddenly and accompany the planes for miles. They seem to be radio   
   controlled from the ground, so official intelligence reports reveal..."   
      
   I recently read a paper by Dr. Renato Vesco in which he claims that the "Foo   
   Fighter" actually existed. It was originally called the "Feurball" and that it   
   was first built at an aeronautical establishment in Weiner Neustatt, with the   
   help of the Flugfunk Forschungsanstalt of Oberpfaffenhoffen (FFO). According   
   to Vesco, the craft was a flat, circular flying machine, powered by a special   
   turbojet engine, which was used by the Germans during the end of the war.   
   Vesco also claims that the basic principles of the "Feurball" were later   
   applied to a much larger craft called the "Kugelblitz" or Ball Lightning   
   Fighter. This craft, which was rummored to be a revolutionary kind of   
   supersonic aircraft- was sucesfully conducted over the underground complex of   
   Kahla, in Thuringia, some time during February of 1945.   
      
   By 1975, Luftfhardt International was stating that a WWII Flugkapitan Rudolph   
   Schriever had died and found among his papers were the incomplete notes for a   
   large flying saucer, a series of rough sketches of the machine, and several   
   newspaper clippings of himself and his alleged flying saucer. Luftfahrt also   
   pointed out that Schriever, up until his death, had been convinced that the   
   UFO sightings since the end of the war were proof that his original id as had   
   been taken further with succesful results.   
      
   Again I wonder. Is there something more to this? Where did this technology go?   
      
   In May of 1978, at Stand 111 in a scientific exhibition in the Hanover Messe   
   Hall, some people were giving out a paper entitled the "Brisant". The   
   paper contained two seemingly unrelated articles:   
      1. The scientific future of the Antartic.   
      2. Germany's WWII flying saucers The flying saucer spoke   
       of the information I alredy had presented to you. The article also incl   
       detailed drawing of a typical WWII flying disk, did not mention the   
       designer's name, and claimed that the drawing was altered by the West   
       German gov't to render it "safe" for publication. According to the   
       article, at the end of the war, some of the patents for this craft   
       disapeared into secret Russian, American, and British files. The remainder   
       of the files and most likely, the most important ones, went with the   
       "missing" German sci entists and S.S. men. By 1956, Captain Ed Ruppelt,   
       then head of the U.S.A.F.'s Project Blue Book, wrote, "When WWII ended,   
       the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missles under   
       development. The majority of these were in the most preliminary staes, but   
       they were the only known craft that could even approach the performances   
       of the objects reported by UFO observers."   
      
   The article also states that in 1938, Hitler, anxious for a foothold in the   
   Antartic, sent an expediition commanded by Captain Alfred Richter to the coast   
   due south of South Africa. Two seaplanes were launched from the deck of the   
   carrier, Schwabenland, daily for three weeks. They had orders to fly back and   
   forth across the territory which Norwegian explorers had named Queen Maud   
   Land. The Germans had then made a far more thorough study of these region,   
   finding vast areas that were free of ice. They renamed the area   
   "Neuschwabenland" and claimed it as part of the Third Reich. German ships and   
   U-boats continued to operate in the South Atlantic Ocean, particularly   
   between South Africa and the Antartic, throughout WWII. Then, in March 1945,   
   just before the end of the war, two German U-boats, U-530 and U-977, left from   
   a port on the Baltic Sea. Alegedly, they took with them members of the flying   
   saucer research teams, the last of the most vital saucer components, the notes   
   and drawings for the saucer, and the designs for gigantic underground   
   complexes and living accomodations based on the underground factories of   
   Nordhausen in the Harz mountains. The U-boats allegedly unloaded all of this   
   in Antartica. Then, two months after the war, they mysteriously surfaced off   
   the coast of Argentina where the crews were handed over to the American   
   authorities, who interrogated them at length and then flew them all back to   
   the United States and questioned the Captains of both U-boats for almost a   
   year.   
      
   About a year after their capture, the United States launched the biggest   
    operation ever known regarding the Antartic. The purpose was to   
    "circumnavigate the 16,000 mile continent and map it thoroughly.." "Brisant"   
    felt i odd that Operation Highjump, as it was called, under the command of   
    Adm. Richard E. Byrd, included 13 ships, 2 seaplane tenders, an aircraft   
    carrier, 6 two engine R4D transports, 6 Martin PBM flying boats, 6   
    helicopters and a staggering 4000 men. That expedition became somewhat of a   
    mystery. It docked near the German claimed Neuschwabenland and split up into   
    three separate task forces. Some reports claim that the mission was an   
    enormous success. Other, mainly foreign, reports say that it was a complete   
    disaster: that many of Byrd's men were lost on the first day, that at least   
    four of his airplanes had disappeared, and that while the expedition had gone   
    provisioned for 6 to 8 months, they had returned only after a few weeks.   
    According to "Brisant" Admiral Byrd told a reporter that it was "necessary   
    for the USA to take defensive actions aginst enemy air fighters which come   
    from the polar regions" and that in case of a new war the USA would be   
    "attacked by fighters that are able to fly from one pole to the other with   
    incredible speed." Admiral Byrd was then ordered to undergo a secret cross   
    examination and the US withdrew from the Antartic for almost a decade.   
      
   Yes, I have to ask again. Why are the governments of Earth covering up on this   
   UFO phenomenon. It may be because they have no choice right now. They are up   
   against a much more technologically advanced society that might very well be a   
   product of the Nazi's and they can't do a thing about it right now. It then   
   becomes more apparent why they do not want us to know. The masses would not   
   only panic but would quite probably go berserk! There are still many people   
   alive today who experienced the terror of Nazi Germany. Imagine how they would   
   feel if they found out that not only is Naziism still alive but, they command   
   power that no government can stop.   
      
   There is still other information that I've come across which I am in the   
   process of researching at this point. It regards the science of Cybornetics. I   
   became interested in this because the Nazi's did many "exp riments" with   
   humans. Many of these experiments are deemed to be highly unethical by the   
   medical profession. So strange infact that results of these tests cannot be   
   released or even used for a good purpose because of the way the tests were   
   conducted. More on this some other time but it may be possible that these   
   "little people" are cyborgs. Don't laugh. What I have read so far just might   
   support this theory.   
      
   There are a few problems with all of this. What about the sightings that took   
   place before WWII? What about Lear's report that we are dealing with Aliens,   
   Extraterrestrials from another world? Why bother with te Space Shuttle and   
   rockets if the technology exists to build saucers? None of it truly makes   
   sense. That is the problem. We have only questions and not enough answers but,   
   somebody knows. Do you?   
      
      
                                           Al Pinto         
                  
                    
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