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|    Kurt Snelling to All    |
|    SUBJECT: UFOs: ALIEN OR MAN-MADE?     |
|    14 Nov 25 06:46:57    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 329.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2d7c4dfa       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: UTF-8 4       SUBJECT: UFOs: ALIEN OR MAN-MADE? FILE: UFO1192                        UFO's. Alien or Man Made        By        Al Pinto                     First, I would like to introduce myself. I am not an airplane pilot. I am not       an astronaut, physicist, scientist, pscychologist, or any other so called       "accepted" authority on UFO's. I am however an ex-Navy Petty Officer with a       good amount of observation experience. I am also someone who is very       interested in the phenomenon. I have researched this subject for quite a while       now, because of what it might mean to us if the "truth" leaked out. Let me tell       you that there is a lot more to UFO's than you may think.              The governments of the world have been covering up everything that has to do       with UFO's. Why? It may be they feel that the sheer thought of an "alien"       culture infiltrating our world would cause mass hysteria. When I was a       teenager living in North Bergen, NJ (a town across the Hudson River, directly       across from NYC) hundreds of people saw what appeared to be a flying disk land       in what was then called Hudson County Park ( now named Braddock Park after       James J. Braddock, the boxer). It was said to blow out windows in a high rise       named the "Stonehenge". The only thing ever heard about it was a small blurb       in the local newspaper called the Dispatch. I became interested in the       phenomenon ever since. The authorities must have had one hell of a time       suppressing that sighting but, apparently were very succesful. Again I ask,       why?              Maybe these craft are some secret government project. There is a lot of        evidence to this that dates back to WWII. There is a report by Marshall        Yarrow, then then the Reuters special correspondant to Supreme H.Q. in        liberated Paris. This article was published in the South Wales Argus on        December 13, 1944. It stated, "The Germans have produced a 'secret' weapon in        keeping with the Christmas season. The new device, which is appaently an air        defense weapon, resembles the glass balls that adorn Christmas trees. T hey        have been seen hanging in the air over German territory,sometimes singly,       sometimes in clusters. They are colored silver and are appaently transparent."              Another article regarding the German's secret craft was released by the       Associated Press in the New York Herald Tribune dated January 2, 1945. It       said: "Now, it seems, the Nazis have thrown something new into the night       skiesover Germany. It is the weird, mysterious 'Foo Fighter' balls which race       alongside the wings of Beaufighters flying intruder missions over Germany.       Pilots have been encountering this eerie eapon for more than a month in their       night flights. No one apparently knows what this sky weapon is. The balls of       fire appear suddenly and accompany the planes for miles. They seem to be radio       controlled from the ground, so official intelligence reports reveal..."              I recently read a paper by Dr. Renato Vesco in which he claims that the "Foo       Fighter" actually existed. It was originally called the "Feurball" and that it       was first built at an aeronautical establishment in Weiner Neustatt, with the       help of the Flugfunk Forschungsanstalt of Oberpfaffenhoffen (FFO). According       to Vesco, the craft was a flat, circular flying machine, powered by a special       turbojet engine, which was used by the Germans during the end of the war.       Vesco also claims that the basic principles of the "Feurball" were later       applied to a much larger craft called the "Kugelblitz" or Ball Lightning       Fighter. This craft, which was rummored to be a revolutionary kind of       supersonic aircraft- was sucesfully conducted over the underground complex of       Kahla, in Thuringia, some time during February of 1945.              By 1975, Luftfhardt International was stating that a WWII Flugkapitan Rudolph       Schriever had died and found among his papers were the incomplete notes for a       large flying saucer, a series of rough sketches of the machine, and several       newspaper clippings of himself and his alleged flying saucer. Luftfahrt also       pointed out that Schriever, up until his death, had been convinced that the       UFO sightings since the end of the war were proof that his original id as had       been taken further with succesful results.              Again I wonder. Is there something more to this? Where did this technology go?              In May of 1978, at Stand 111 in a scientific exhibition in the Hanover Messe       Hall, some people were giving out a paper entitled the "Brisant". The       paper contained two seemingly unrelated articles:        1. The scientific future of the Antartic.        2. Germany's WWII flying saucers The flying saucer spoke        of the information I alredy had presented to you. The article also incl        detailed drawing of a typical WWII flying disk, did not mention the        designer's name, and claimed that the drawing was altered by the West        German gov't to render it "safe" for publication. According to the        article, at the end of the war, some of the patents for this craft        disapeared into secret Russian, American, and British files. The remainder        of the files and most likely, the most important ones, went with the        "missing" German sci entists and S.S. men. By 1956, Captain Ed Ruppelt,        then head of the U.S.A.F.'s Project Blue Book, wrote, "When WWII ended,        the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missles under        development. The majority of these were in the most preliminary staes, but        they were the only known craft that could even approach the performances        of the objects reported by UFO observers."              The article also states that in 1938, Hitler, anxious for a foothold in the       Antartic, sent an expediition commanded by Captain Alfred Richter to the coast       due south of South Africa. Two seaplanes were launched from the deck of the       carrier, Schwabenland, daily for three weeks. They had orders to fly back and       forth across the territory which Norwegian explorers had named Queen Maud       Land. The Germans had then made a far more thorough study of these region,       finding vast areas that were free of ice. They renamed the area       "Neuschwabenland" and claimed it as part of the Third Reich. German ships and       U-boats continued to operate in the South Atlantic Ocean, particularly       between South Africa and the Antartic, throughout WWII. Then, in March 1945,       just before the end of the war, two German U-boats, U-530 and U-977, left from       a port on the Baltic Sea. Alegedly, they took with them members of the flying       saucer research teams, the last of the most vital saucer components, the notes       and drawings for the saucer, and the designs for gigantic underground       complexes and living accomodations based on the underground factories of       Nordhausen in the Harz mountains. The U-boats allegedly unloaded all of this       in Antartica. Then, two months after the war, they mysteriously surfaced off       the coast of Argentina where the crews were handed over to the American       authorities, who interrogated them at length and then flew them all back to       the United States and questioned the Captains of both U-boats for almost a       year.              About a year after their capture, the United States launched the biggest        operation ever known regarding the Antartic. The purpose was to        "circumnavigate the 16,000 mile continent and map it thoroughly.." "Brisant"        felt i odd that Operation Highjump, as it was called, under the command of        Adm. Richard E. Byrd, included 13 ships, 2 seaplane tenders, an aircraft        carrier, 6 two engine R4D transports, 6 Martin PBM flying boats, 6        helicopters and a staggering 4000 men. That expedition became somewhat of a        mystery. It docked near the German claimed Neuschwabenland and split up into        three separate task forces. Some reports claim that the mission was an        enormous success. Other, mainly foreign, reports say that it was a complete        disaster: that many of Byrd's men were lost on the first day, that at least        four of his airplanes had disappeared, and that while the expedition had gone        provisioned for 6 to 8 months, they had returned only after a few weeks.        According to "Brisant" Admiral Byrd told a reporter that it was "necessary        for the USA to take defensive actions aginst enemy air fighters which come        from the polar regions" and that in case of a new war the USA would be        "attacked by fighters that are able to fly from one pole to the other with        incredible speed." Admiral Byrd was then ordered to undergo a secret cross        examination and the US withdrew from the Antartic for almost a decade.              Yes, I have to ask again. Why are the governments of Earth covering up on this       UFO phenomenon. It may be because they have no choice right now. They are up       against a much more technologically advanced society that might very well be a       product of the Nazi's and they can't do a thing about it right now. It then       becomes more apparent why they do not want us to know. The masses would not       only panic but would quite probably go berserk! There are still many people       alive today who experienced the terror of Nazi Germany. Imagine how they would       feel if they found out that not only is Naziism still alive but, they command       power that no government can stop.              There is still other information that I've come across which I am in the       process of researching at this point. It regards the science of Cybornetics. I       became interested in this because the Nazi's did many "exp riments" with       humans. Many of these experiments are deemed to be highly unethical by the       medical profession. So strange infact that results of these tests cannot be       released or even used for a good purpose because of the way the tests were       conducted. More on this some other time but it may be possible that these       "little people" are cyborgs. Don't laugh. What I have read so far just might       support this theory.              There are a few problems with all of this. What about the sightings that took       place before WWII? What about Lear's report that we are dealing with Aliens,       Extraterrestrials from another world? Why bother with te Space Shuttle and       rockets if the technology exists to build saucers? None of it truly makes       sense. That is the problem. We have only questions and not enough answers but,       somebody knows. Do you?                      Al Pinto                         **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. 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