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                                  VESCO.TXT    
                                     by   
                                   Al Pinto   
      
      
   We, because of the infinitesimal size of the Universe, can quite easily say   
   that the probability of the Earth being the only planet inhabited by   
   intelligent beings is not logical.  However, while there is research going on   
   today inorder to prove the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) by   
   listening in on the radio waves of space, I wonder; have we been contacted   
   already? Is there something in the UFO phenomenon that proves the existence of   
   extraterrestrials? Let's look at the facts.   
        
   Thousands of people from all around the world report the sightings of strange   
   aerial phenomenon every year. It has been going on for many years, but not as   
   much as from 1947 to present.  Due to the fact that so many people have seen   
   objects in the sky that they can't identify, we could at least admit that there   
   is sufficient reason to believe that UFO's exist. We can't scientifically prove   
   their existence just based on that fact but we can't ignore it either. So our   
   next logical step would be to get more data.    
       
   Is the origin of all UFO's extraterrestrial? Is there a possibiliy that at   
   least some may come from Earth and Earth technology? The answer to that   
   question is yes, some are Earth originated. People can easily mistake a plane   
   or helicopter flying at night as a UFO and have already. Some even thought that   
   Venus was one. However, while most UFO's could be explained, there are an   
   astonishing number of reports that cannot. They include reports from people   
   such as police chiefs, scientists, pilots, and most interestingly, astronauts.   
   There is plenty of information publically available that is reputable about   
   details of their encounters. Our next step should be to concentrate on these   
   unexplainable sightings. Out of these, is it still possible that the object   
   could come from Earth? Dr. Renato Vesco thought so. In his book Intercept UFO,   
   he writes about his experience and information with Nazi Germany. I am going to   
   include a paper written by him but first let me tell you his credentials.   
             
           Renato Vesco is a fully liscensed aircraft engineer and a specialist   
   in aerospace and ramjet developements. He attended the University         of   
   Rome and, before WWII, studied at the German Institute for             Aerial   
   Developement. During the war, Vesco worked with the                Germans at   
   the Fiat Lake Garda secret installations in Italy. In            the 1960's, he   
   worked for the Italian Air Ministry of Defense               as an undercover   
   technical agent, investigating the UFO mystery.   
           He writes:   
               
   "On November 27, 1944, a B-27 of the United States Air Force, returning from a   
   raid on Speyer, West Germany, encountered a huge, orange colored light moving   
   upward at an estimated speed of 500 MPH. When the pilots reported, sector radar   
   had reported negatively, because nothing had registered on the screen.   
        
   But the object seen by the returning bomber was only the first of numerous   
   others spotted by American pilots over wartime Germany and promptly baptized   
   'foo-fighters.' Fighter pilots Falls and Backer. of the 415th Squadron,   
   reported such an encounter a month later forcing the Air Force to admit that   
   such objects might exist. Later encounters with foo fighters led experts to   
   assume they were German inventions of a new order employed to baffle radar.   
       
   How close they came to the truth, they learned only when the war was over and   
   Allied Intelligence teams moved into the secret Nazi plants. The foo-fighters   
   seen by American pilots were only a minor demonstration, a   
   fraction of a vast variety of methods used to confuse radar and interrupt   
   electro magnetic currents.  Work on the German anti-radar Feurball, or   
   fireball, had been speeded up during the fall of 1944 at a Luftwaffe   
   experimental center near Oberammergau, Bavaria. There, and at the aeronautical   
   establishment at Weiner Neustadt, the first fireballs were produced. Later,   
   when the Russians moved closer to Austria, the workshops producing the   
   fireballs were moved to Black Forest. Fast and remote controlled, the   
   fireballs, equipped with kliston tubes and operating on the same frequency as   
   Allied radar, could eliminate the blips from screens and remain practically   
   invisible to ground control.   
      
   The Nazi Feurball failed to interfere with the Allied air offensive. The foo   
   fighters had been launched too late and could no longer change the course of   
   events, but in themselves they were significant not only because they were the   
   outcome of a technical evolution which could have led to more dangerous   
   weapons, but also because they showed that Nazi technology had moved in a   
   direction far beyond anything expected by Allied Intelligence.   
      
   As the fall of Germany approached, the Nazi Leaders reverted to an ambitious   
   project created by Gauleiter Franz Hofer who had become high commissioner for   
   the Italian Tyrol and the Southern Alps. The project foresaw setting up an   
   incredible fortress in the mountains, including parts of Italy, Austria and   
   Bavaria. Hofer submitted his plan to Hitler's aide, Martin Bormann in November   
   1944, but he had prepared for this moment back in 1938 when Nazi agents   
   carefully mapped all mountain passes, caves, bridges, highways, and located   
   sights for underground factories, munitions dumps, arms and food caches. To   
   complete work on this fortress, Hofer demanded a slave labor force of a quarter   
   of a million- 70% Austrian workers and 30% men of the Tyrolese home guard.   
       
   So-called U-Plants were to be set up underground as gigantic workshops and   
   launching pads for the secret weopons which were to turn the tide of the war in   
   favor of the Nazis. Among these were some 74 tunnels along Lake Garda, in   
   Northern Italy, which were to be adapted and transformed into a vast assembly   
   plant by FIAT of Turin in close collaboration with the department of Minister   
   Albert Speer. Seven other tunnels along Lake Garda, near Limone, were to   
   produce several weapons tested at the Hermann Goering Institute of Riva del   
   Garda.   
      
   According to the archives of the German High Command and of the Allied Combined   
   Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee, other plants in vital areas of Central   
   Germany, code named M-Werke, were to produce powerful missles such as the giant   
   A.9/A.10 destined to destroy New York and Washington. But most important was   
   the Alpine area, for it was from there that the supreme weapons were to come.   
      
   This report, never released by the Allies, was made by a French diplomat. It   
   was forwarded to Free French Intelligence Headquarters at Algiers. The top   
   secret report reffered to the blue clouds as something approaching   
   anti-aircraft projectiles based on the grisou (fire damp) gas found in mines,   
   and which had been succesfully tried against other bombers over Lake Garda. The   
   French report was intercepted by Italian agents and deciphered at SID (Italian   
   Counter-Intelligence) Headquarters at Castiglione della Stiviere. The message   
   was later captured by a military intelligence team operating for the eighth   
   Army in Italy.   
        
   The contents of the message was no novelty to the Allies. Already, some time   
   ago, shortly after the bombing of Dresden, British and American intelligence   
   had obtained a brief account concerning the use of some such weapon used   
   against a group of twelve American bombers. That message, which came from an   
   agent in Switzerland attached to Allen Dulle's team, also stated the attacker   
   had been a "strange hemispherical object which flew at fantastic speeds and   
   destroyed the bombers without using firearms.'    
      
   Then, after the German surrender in May, 1945, a team of British agents,   
   investigating the files of some of the underground factories in Black Forest,   
   discovered that a large number of documents concerned 'important experiments   
   made with liquid oxygen for new turbine engines capable of developing   
   extraordinary power.'   
      
   Other documents described the use of 'gaseous explosives' which had been   
   originally tested in Austria in 1936. Their existence was later confirmed by   
   the ALSOS Mision and by Dr. Hans Friedrich Gold, of the Laboratory for   
   Aeronautical Research at Volkenrode. The ejection of gas explosives had been   
   part of the program tackled by researchers on Lake Garda and later tested with   
   success by the circular flying object against Allied bombers.   
   This object, in German military files, already had an operational name: 'Round   
   Lightning' (Kugelblitz)    
      
   Long and close observation between the special Air Research Corps of the SS,   
   Austrian research centers in Vienna, the Hermann Goering Works and the vast   
   complex of underground G-Works had previously produced amazing improvement on   
   the fireball or foo-fighter which, despite it's anti-radar effectiveness,   
   remained comparatively harmless. But by combining the principle of the aircraft   
   with a round, symetrical plane with direct gyroscopic stabilization, employing   
   an ejector-gun using grisou and a gelatinous organic/mettalic fuel for a total   
   reaction turbine, adding remote control, vehicle take off, infrared seeking   
   equipment and electrostatic firing systems, the harmless fireball became the   
   lethal Kugelblitz!   
      
   Believe me, I can prove what I say. The Kugelblitz, to be on the safe side,   
   employed, in addition to it's electrostatic firing system, a similar system   
   based on short waves and built by the Patent Verwertungs Gesselschaft of   
   Salzburg, Austria. The whole thing formed one compact, round mass which had   
   absolutely nothing in common with any flying object ever produced before.   
      
   In documents found by British Intelligence teams and submitted to the British   
   Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee-documents which I have been able to   
   study-these and many other details are known. They can be found in the   
   Sub-Committee's Final Report Number 61 on the 'Weapons Section of the L.F.A.,   
   Volkenrode.'   
      
   Kugelblitz, together with it's "younger brothers of the fireball, lens shaped   
   bomb and other weapons, began the real history of the UFO's. In itself, it was   
   a second generation fireball.   
      
   The 'round lightning' weapon, the incredibly fast and mysterious disk-shaped   
   craft that had been rumored and sighted in action, was used only once. As the   
   Allied forces crossed the Rhine, the only craft of it's type was destroyed by   
   th SS on instructions from Berlin, to prevent it's capture. But ever since, due   
   to the severe censorship imposed by 'T' force of the British Army in Germany,   
   and later, thanks to the complete blackout imposed by London, nothing more was   
   heard of Round Lightning.    
      
   I know that agents of the 'T' force camp at Bad Gandersheim closely examined   
   the documents found in the G-Works, documents which had been elaborated by the   
   technical general staff of the SS and by technical control of the Henshel and   
   Zeppelin works. These documents concern the propulsion unit of the Kugelblitz   
   prototype built by the Kreislaufbetrieb Motor D.W. in 1943 for the F.F.K.F.   
   (Forschungsinstitut for Kraftfhart and Fahzeugmotoren) at   
   Stuttgart-Untertuerkheim and perfected by proffessors Kamm and Ernst. The   
   British called this motor an 'oxygen recycle system.' It was later abandoned in   
   favor of the Walter turbine, powered by hydrogen peroxide. The documents found   
   discussed the possibility of using both systems in a compound-type propulsion   
   unit.   
        
   To these basic facts, I must add: A mass of documents and equipment were taken   
   by British 'T' teams to Bedford and then to Canada and Australia.    
      
   In a certain sense, the British were more intelligent than the Americans, for   
   they permitted German scientists to complete their work in Germany on the sight   
   where they had worked all through the war-only, of course, under close   
   supervision. This happened at Darmstadt and Goettingen. Later on, these   
   installations were dismantled and shipped to Britain. The Transport Service of   
   the British Ministry of Aviation discreetly shipped the scientists and   
   documents to Britain, Canada and Australia, in successive phases. Lists of the   
   scientists to be sent overseas had been compiled in the spring of 1944 by the   
   B.I.O.S. and formed separate and specialized teams.   
      
   One such team, composed of Proffessor Ben Lockspeiser and W.J. Richards, Dr.   
   S.H. Hollingdale and Captain A.D. Green, handled 'advanced projects, missles,   
   jet and turbine craft.' Another, including T.A. Taylor and M.A. Wheeler,   
   investigated German advances in the field of Thermo-refraction. Another team,   
   which obtained the services of Dr. Ernst Westermann, former director of the   
   F.D.R.P. Institutes of Speyer and Saarbrucken, concentrated on the fireball   
   projects.    
      
   The then Ministry of Aircraft Production, similar to the German wartime   
   Jaegerstab, ceased to exist officially on March 31, 1946, amd became part of   
   the Ministry of Supply. In the years that followed, these teams, and especially   
   the experts headed by Professor Lockspeiser, worked on a multitude of German   
   projects, adapting these to their own experiments in the field of 'suction'   
   wings and on the work of two German scientists during the war, Professors   
   Prandtl and Busemann, to develope a high speed fighter in which the air intake   
   along the wings was discharged through a half-moon-shaped crescent along the   
   fuselage in order to both drive and support the vehicle at high speeds.   
      
   This research comes to mind when one remembers the incident of January 3, 1956.   
   A cessna, employed on a job of aerial photography near Pasadena, encountered   
   three circular flying objects which circled it at a speed of 1600 mph and at a   
   distance of two miles. One of these objects, in suddenly breaking away from the   
   formation, gave off a long, vaporous trail as it sped through a cumulous cloud,   
   cutting the cloud in two. 'Exactly as if it had sucked up the cloud.,' the   
   Cessna pilot exclaimed later.   
      
   Back in 1946, the British Broadcasting Corporation announced that Britain   
   'would soon have aircraft capable of speeds well over 1000 mph, that, according   
   to some experts, such craft had already been built and that, in the near   
   future, they could circumnavigate the globe several times because they needed   
   only fuel for take off and landing..' Other British sources mentioned aircraft   
   capable of speeds of several thousand miles an hour.   
      
   More than twenty years have passed since the otherwise so-eminently-careful BBC   
   boasted of 'Britain's planes of the future,' and officially these aircraft   
   still remain little more than a dream. And yet, did not Ben Lockspeiser, the   
   man who was in charge of the most responsible 'T' teams, declare that 'such   
   craft would need no fuel?' Did he not imply  that such craft would gain their   
   own propellant from the atmosphere by suction and expulsion?     
      
   On June 26, 1953, an intensely luminous flying object majestically crossed the   
   night sky of Albacete, Spain, at an altitude of 60 miles. In Britain,   
   scientific papers produced by members of the 'T' teams showed suggestive titles   
   such as 'Boundary Layer Flow Over a Permeable Surface Through Which Suction is   
   Applied' (J.H. Preston), 'The Aerodynamics of Porous Sheets' by G.J. Taylor,   
   and Pankhurst's Aerofoil Catalogue.   
      
   In 1959, aeronautical engineer N.S. Currey wrote: 'Canada today must be counted   
   among the most advanced aeronautical powers in the world,' and added   
   cautiously, 'This refers above all to the field of jet propulsion.'   
      
   The Canadian Department of Mines and the Technical Surveys Mapping Branch   
   reserved a vast area-125,000 square miles-for production of experimental   
   aircraft. This was one of the decisions reached by the committees of the   
   Commonwealth Conference on Aeronautical Research. This desolate, heavily   
   woooded and mountainous region between British Columbia and Alberta, with the   
   Peace River district as it's Northern frontier and Washington State to the   
   South, was an ideal location-few and easily controlled roads, few settlements,   
   few railroads, but good communications in the north and the south via the trunk   
   line from Prince George to Edmonton and that from Vancouver to the United   
   States border, and only one major highway, te Alaska.   
      
   Britain already had considerable wartime experiance in this sort of enterprise.   
   In 1942, at the height of the German raids, the RAF had set up five secret   
   airports in the very heart of the New Forest, in Hampshire. The big thing about   
   these installations was the fact that they included complete industrial plants,   
   decentralizing major groups essential for war production. They were called   
   'shade workshops.' The Germans, too, had much experience in this field. One of   
   their major plants at Volkenrode resisted all attempts at aerial identification   
   throughout the war.   
      
   Neither the British nor the Americans, on an official level, saw eye to eye in   
   scientific matters at the close of the war against Germany and afterward. The   
   United States' refusal to share atomic secrets with Britain was never quite   
   forgotten in Whitehall, and Britain set out to prove, with Canada, that she was   
   well able to produce her own fission bomb. If Congress steadfastly accused the   
   British of giving little or nothing in return for information, the British felt   
   they had been mistrusted and severely neglected. They preferred to go ahead   
   with their plans in Canada.   
      
   The fact that the area has been photographed again and again by high altitude   
   reconnaissance planes, both U.S. and Russian, does not perturb the Canadian or   
   British authorities. The plants and saucer ports are underground, hidden in   
   primeval forests of Columbia.   
      
   The question immediately arises: Why have not Britain and Canada made such   
   craft available to their other partners in the North Atlantic Treaty   
   Organization? I believe there may be many answers to such a question, but one   
   of the main points is this: Lack of confidence and fear of being exploited   
   remain rife among the nations, as they are among people. And why should not   
   Britain and her Commonwealth partner retain one major trump card which, one   
   day, may become invaluable? The pooling of scientific secrets is rarely   
   entirely sincere.   
      
   All the evidence, all the know how of British scientists before and during the   
   last war, combined with the astounding progress in propulsion and the   
   discoveries in suction aircraft of the Germans, based on 18 years of research   
   into the most secret documents of the past war, have convinced me of one thing:   
   The flying saucers do not come from space. They come from a few hundred miles   
   outside the United States. They mean no harm, and Washington knows this. Hence   
   the long standing order to all U.S. Air Force pilots: Intercept--but do not   
   fire upon."    
      
   This article, which appeared in Argosy Magazine in August, 1969, is reprinted   
   above in it's entirety. It is important because it is one of the few reports   
   that goes into detail about the revolutionary technical advancements made by   
   the Nazi's in the field of aeronautical research.        
   Unfortunately, Vesco doesn't offer any real substantiation for the existence of   
   the Kugelblitz, which is the crux of his subject. However, in his book   
   Intercept, UFO, he tells us that the Kugelblitz was indeed tested some time in   
   February, 1945 over the great underground complex at Kahla, in Thuringia. Both   
   the Kugelblitz and the Feurball were then destroyed by the retreating S.S.    
      
   So, could this story be considered fact? We have to take into consideration a   
   number of issues. First and foremost, there is the Nazi's.   
   Could they have been developing craft of such advancement? History has it that   
   not only were they at war, which required much in the way of manpower, but they   
   took on incredible projects such as constructing huge underground complexes at   
   Nordhausen in the Harz mountains, Pennemunde and others. They also had their   
   Naval Vessals provide support for a very detailed study of the Antartic in   
   which they were alleged to have been building underground bases there as well.    
      
   General Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsfuhrer as his S.S. men would call him, was   
   quite frankly, a madman. He believed in obediance, controlled breeding and   
   vivisection of homans. He believed in biological mutation and what could be   
   produced with it. He used the slaves for his work force, as well as specimens   
   for research.    
      
   Let's discuss this possibility more in the message boards in Paranet and the   
   UFO echos. I am starting to get quite tired of the theory that UFO's and   
   related matters, are extraterrestrial. It is being shoved down our throats by   
   figures like "Falcon" and "Condor" as well as articles in Paranet like   
   MUGGER.DOC and PICNIC2.DOC. As a matter of fact, that is about all I hear   
   anymore. It seems that since we want to hear about EBE's, the so-called,   
   Intelligence Community, is giving us just what we want to hear.    
      
   I call on each and every person in the UFO community to research, in debth,   
   HUMAN history. In particular, great scientists such as, Tesla and his   
   experiments; Einstein's theories; Germany's secret weapons of the Second World   
   War by R. Lusar; the Philadelphia Experiment; Admiral Byrd's Project Highjump;   
   books and periodicals about Nazi Germany and their interest in Antartica; then   
   tell me that the possibility of technology (Earth Technology) could not   
   possibly exist that could explain UFO's and the reason why it is above top   
   secret.   
        
      
                    
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