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   SUBJECT: OLD NEWS FROM CUFON                                 FILE: UFO1177   
      
      
   SOURCE : CUFON Computer UFO Network   
      
   SUBJECT: Unidentified Flying Objects   
      
      
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   1.  I can assure you the flying saucers, given that they exist, are not   
       constructed by any power on earth. President Harry S. Truman - Press   
       conference, Washington DC, April 4, 1950.   
      
   2.  Based upon unreliable and unscientific surmises as data, the Air Force   
       develops elaborate statistical findings which seem impressive to the   
       uninitiated public unschooled in the fallaciec of the statistical method.   
       One must conclude that the highly publicized Air Force pronouncements   
       based upon unsound statistics serve merely to misrepreent the true   
       character of the UFO phenomena.  Yale Scientific Magazine (Yale University)   
       Volume XXXVII, Number 7, April 1963   
      
   3.  I feel that the Air Force has not been giving out all the available   
       information on the Unidentified Flying Objects. You cannot disregard so   
       many unimpeachable sources.   John W. McCormack, Speaker of the House of   
       Representatives of the United States.  January 1965   
      
   4.  I have absolutely no idea where the UFO's come from or how they are   
       operated, but after ten years of research, I know they are something from   
       ourside our atmosphere.  Dr. James E. McDonald, Professor of Atmospheric   
       physics, University of Arizona. 1967.   
      
   5.  I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and   
       interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer   
       space.      Albert M. Chop,  deputy public relations director, National   
       Aeronautics and Space Administration, and former United States Air Force   
       spokesman for Project Blue Book.   
      
   6.  The least improbable explanation is that these things UFO's are artificial   
       and controlled.  My opinion for some time has been that they have an   
       extraterrestrial origin.  Dr. Maurice Bilot, one of the world's leading   
       aerodynamicists and mathematical physicists.  Life, April 7, 1952   
      
   7.  Of course the flying saucers are real and they are interplanetary.   
       Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding, commanding officer of the Royal Air Force   
       of Great Britain, August 1954   
      
   Comments:  It would seem that many people thought there was something to   
              all of this stuff called UFO's and if this is all true, could it   
              be that all of us are being mislead. One thing is for sure the   
              history of this subject matter is being forgotten and there is over   
              40 years of it.  It should be very clear to many people that this   
              at least is true and if so then why ?  I must admit this does bother   
              me to think that we think so little of ourselves not to care about   
              whats real and whats not.  The old story is why should anyone care   
              unless there is some money to be made or does this really concern   
              a layman who does not know anything anyway are so they say.  but   
              who are they ?   This is what we should start finding out and then   
              maybe we will be a little closer to the problem.  There has been   
              to many good men who put themselves on the line for such a good   
              cause, I believe we call this truth or have we forgotten this too.   
      
              Dale D. Goudie, Director Of CUFON.   
      
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                                  JUNE 1, 1986   
      
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   The Seattle Times   
      
   BY Elizabeth Puliiam   
   Times Staff Reporter   
      
          NASA should get out of the business of launching spacecraft and let   
   private industry take over before astronomical costs cancel the space program   
   forever, according to one member of a presidential commission on U.S. space   
   strategy.   
      
   Unless we can redically lower the cost of reaching space, it's possible that   
   this country may not go, said David Webb, a space development consultant and   
   member of President Reagan's National Commission on Space, in an interview   
   here yesterday.   
      
   Webb will address the Space Development Conference at 3:30 p.m. today in the   
   Westin Hotel.  The Commission delivered its recommendations to the president   
   Friday, although parts of the controversial report had earlier been leaked to   
   trade journals.  The report describes layers of space stations between the   
   earth, moon and mars to be built by 2017.   
      
   The cost of putting objects into space must be slashed to noe-tenth its   
   present level, from $2,000 per pound, to $200 per pound, to make further space   
   exploitation possible, Webb said.   That means that the private sector should   
   be more heavily involved in designing and opwerating space craft.   
      
      
      
      
      
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   The Seattle Times   
      
   Close-Up  Mystery Air Force Crash   
      
   Hush Fuels Reports That Doomed Plane Was "Stealth"   
      
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   Bakersfield, Calif. - Out on Rancheria Road stands a roadblock manned   
   by two soldiers wearing "sunglasses", green-and-brown camouflage outfits   
   and black M-16 rifles slung over their backs.   
      
   Beyond that roadblock, out in the sun-bleached hills about 12 miles from   
   Bakersfield, is a mystery.   
      
   Early last Friday, something fell out of the sky and into a canyon in the   
   Sequoia National Forest, crashing on Kenneth and Agnes Mebane's ranch about   
   4 miles south of the roadblock. It is something the Air Force wishes no one   
   else knew about. And they intend to do everything they can to keep others   
   from finding out.   
      
   I haven't asked them anything, says 63-year-old Kenneth Mebane of the soldiers   
   who moved onto his property without asking permission shortly after the 2 A.M.   
   incident.   
      
   Then, echoing many who live nearby, Mebane adds, I think that's their business.   
   Officiallt, the Air Force says only that one of its planes crashed and that its   
   pilot, Maj. Ross Mulhare, was killed.   
   Military analysts suspect the plane was one of a number of top-secret Stealth   
   fighters designed to be virtually invisible to enemy radar. The Pentagon   
   refuses to acknowledge that any such planes exist, although it is known the Air   
   Force currently has three Stealth programs in operation.   
      
   The plane also is suspected to have come from nearby Edwards Air Force Base,   
   although the military won't comfirm or deny that. I can't say where it was   
   based at or where it was going, say Air Force Lt. Col. Jerry Guess, who is   
   stationed at Edwards and who is the only authorized dpokesman at the crash   
   scene. So much secrecy is ironic in light of a pending congressional   
   investigation into reports that the Lockheed Corp., major contractor for the   
   F-19 Stealth fighter, may have lost hundreds of documents involved with its   
   Stealth research.   
      
   The plane was first sighted by a pilot in a small commercial airplane, who   
   radioed the Federal Aviation Administration in Los Angeles. The FAA notified   
   the Forest Service, which called in Kern County firefighters from Bakersfield   
   to put out a 120 acre fire sparked by the crash. Fire Capt. Darrell Tiede   
   and his crew from the Niles station house arrived before the military and saw   
   the wreckage. But Tiede refuses to talk about it. A reporter for the   
   Bakersfield Californian says one firefighter described the crash site as molten   
   iron. But the reporter says the man's supervisor quickly told him not to say   
   anymore.   
      
   Kern County Fire Capt. Bill Alexander says all the secrecy can cause problems.   
   Air Force personnel shooed firefighters away from the area before they had   
   completely mopped up the blaze, he says. A Kern County "coroner's investigator   
   was dispatched to the ranch, but turned back to Bakersfield when military   
   officials said they were taking care of the remains. The Air Force refuses to   
   say where the pilot was taken."   
      
   While the cleanup continues, the Air Force has moved into an office at   
   Meadows Field, Bakersfield's public airport. And it has been flying helicopters   
   and twin-engine planes in and out of the field over the past six days. If the   
   plane that crashed was a Stealth model, the Air Force has to be concerned that   
   no debris is left in the area. Not only is the sleek, highly aerodynamic shape   
   of a Stealth fighter believed important in eluding radar, but the materials   
   used to build the plane must be of a special kind to absorb,rather than reflect   
   , enemy radar. Thus the military would have to make sure that every chunk of   
   the plane's body was removed.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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                            FALLSTON, MD.  ( AP )   
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   REAGAN TO GORBACHEV: " THREAT FROM ET'T WOULD UNITE EARTH "   
      
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   President Reagan revealed wednesday that his discussions with soviet   
   leader Mikhail Gorbachev, touched not only on "Star Wars," but the   
   extraterrestrial.   
      
   In an address to students at Fallston High School here, reahan departed   
   from his prepared remarks to say that in his private discussions with   
   Gorbachev at last months Geneva summit, he noted that "we're all god   
   children.   
      
   I couldn't help but say to him just think how easy his task and mine   
   might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly if there was a threat   
   to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the   
   universe, Reagan said the president went on to say that such an event   
   would force himself and Gorbachev to forget all the little local differences   
   that we have between our countries and they would find out that we really   
   are all human beings here on this earth together.   
      
   Well, I don't suppose we can wait for some alien race to come down and   
   threaten us, Reagan added.  But I think that between us we can bring about   
   that realization.   
      
   The President then ended his remarks, without giving his young audience a   
   clue as to how Gorbachev reponded.   
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