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      TZUTC: -0400       MSGID: 119.fidonet_ufo@1:3634/60 2c6e0e3e       PID: Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       TID: SBBSecho 3.14-Win32 master/a2a9dc027 Jan 2 2022 MSC 1928       BBSID: RICKSBBS       CHRS: UTF-8 4              SUBJECT: NEW DEVELOPMENTS FILE: UFO130                     The following was taken from a newspaper from Springfield, Missouri,       dated Sunday, December 9th, 1990. The name of the newspaper I think,       is the NEWS-LEADER and article is in the section called Ozarks Accent.              -+--------------              TITLED: NOTED EXPERT FINDS ACCOUNT CONVINCING.       BY: Mike O'Brien               What sets Gerald Anderson appart from the thousands of other        American's, including scores of Ozarkers, who say they've seen        UFO's or even insist they've been kidnapped by creatures from        outer space?               Why are Gerald Anderson's childhood recollections stirring        international interest among UFO researchers whose reputations        have been built on healthy skepticism and willingness to        debunk hoaxes?        Because of little things he has to say and how he says them.        Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist who has lectured on more        than 600 college campuses about UFOs, decribes Anderson as "a        really significant, potentially the most important" witness to        what both men believe was the aftermath of one of two space        craft crashes in New Mexico in mid-summer 1947.        Friedman is co-authoring a book based upon several years of        painstaking investigation into the haunting mystery. He was        startled, upoln meeting Anderson for the first time only a few        months ago, to hear the Springfieldian echo details of the yet        to be published research.        "There's no way he could know some of these things unless he        had been there at the time," Friedman believes.        Example: only days before first talking with Anderson,        Friedman coaxed a heretofore reluctant New Mexico mortician        into recounting a run-in he'd had in 1947 with an especially        unpleasant red-headed captain who was heading up a team        recovering bodies from a hush-hush aircraft crash. Anderson,        too, spoke of a red-headed captain with a mean disposition.        Friedman says the descriptions of the ornery officer provided        by the two match precisely, although Anderson and the mortican        never have met.        In sketches of the desert crash scene drawn by Anderson in        Springfield following a hypnosis, a lonely windmill appears in        the distance. When Friedman later arranged for Anderson to        return to New Mexico to pinpoint the long-ago crash site, no        such windmill could be see on the horizon-- until, almost by        accident, the windmill wa spotted behind tress that had grown        up during the 43 years since Anderson was last there.        "I got shivers over that one," says John Carpenter, who has        extensively debriefed Anderson over the past 4 months and went        along on Anderson's return trip to New Mexico in October.        Capenter holds degrees in psychology and psychiatric social        work from DePauw and Washington universities and trained in        clinical hypnosis at the Menninger Institute. He's in his        12th year of work at a psychiatric hospital facility in        Springfield.        "When Gerald tells his story, it's not just a story -- it's        his life he's telling you, intermixed with his feelings and        his beliefs and all that is Gerald," Carpenter says.        "When someone is spinning a hoax or tale, they only give you        enought to reaise your curiosity. Not Gerald. He gives you        everything, in detail, much more than you ask him for. He'd        be setting himself up to be found out if it wasn't true. He's        so confident, he goes so much further than a hoaxer would ever        dare."        Carpenter puts great stock in Anderson's recountings under        hypnosis. "It's what he didn't say that was significant."        Caprenter says, explaining that despite clever prodding,        Anderson never commited a hoaxer's mistake of "recalling"        something that shouldn't be a part of his own memory.        "And when he's under hypnosis, all the bigger, adult words        drop out when he describes events from his childhood,"        Carpenter found. "He relates what he was in child-like        terms."        Carpenter also detected "genuine amazement" when Anderson        heard what had been dredged from his subconscious memory under        hynosis. "The look on his face was priceless when he realized        he'd produced details he'd forgotten on a conscious level so        long ago."        Most subtle but perhaps most telling, in Carpenter's view, was        Anderson's reaction to being accepted as a viable witness to        an extrordinary encounter with a spacecraft and creatures from        beyond Earth.        "He was so grateful at being taken seriously. You could see        the relief and release after all those years, and the great        hope that other people would take him seriously too, once and        for all."        Ironically, Friedman points to Gallup Poll results indicating        that 60 percent of Americans who have college degrees say they        believe UFOs are real. With such a receptive constituency,        why would government officials persist in what Friedman calls        the "Cosmic Watergate" -- the coverup and denial of the New        Mexico crashes? Perhaps, some speculate, because it would be        too embarrassing now to admit that some supposedly made-in-USA        technologies actually were plagiarized from confiscated        spacecraft.        Friedman emphasizes that he's not as interested in uncovering        past misdeeds as he is in encouraging future progress.        "I believe we should have an 'Earthling" orientation rather        than nationalistic orientation. The easiest way to        demonstrate the wisdome of this is to prove that lifeforms        from other planets are coming here. If we can do that, then        everyone will be forced to look at our world differently, as a        part of a galactic neighborhood."        Ozarkers wishing to learn more about UFO research may attend        meetings of the local chapter fo the national Mutual UFO        Network. The next MUFON gather is scheduled for 7pm Tuesday,        Jan 29, in the private meeting room at Mr. Gatti's Pizza, 1508        E. Battlefield Rd.       -+-----end.                     The second part of the Springfield newspaper, dated December 9th,       1990 is as follows:       Titled: Fact or Fantasy? Springfieldian seeks validation of UFO        encounter 43 years ago.       Written by: Mike O'Brien       ALSO NOTE: the actual newpaper article shows a scene of the UFO       crash drawn by Gerald Anderson and also a sketch of a creature he       believes was a visitor from another galaxy.       -+-------------begin story--------------        To a 5-year-old kid from Indianapolis, the mountains and mesas       and vast scrubland surrounding Albuquerque seemed an alien world.        "I was in awe" recalls Gerald Anderson of his arrival in New       Mexico with his family in July 1947. "I was in the wild       frontier. There were real, live Indians out there."        Then says Anderson, on his second day in the Southwest he       bumped into real,live creatures from a truly alien world.        There were four -- two dead, on dying, one apparently       uninjured. The creatures were about 4 feet tall, with heads       disproportionately large for their bodies by human measure and       almond-shaped, coal black eyes. They huddled in the shadow of       50-ft-diameter silver disk - a "flying saucer" that had crashed       into a low hillside on the rim of what locals call the Plains of       San Agustin.        Anderson, a former police chief at Rockaway Beach and Taney       County deputy sheriff who now works as a security officer in       Springfield, is adamant about events on the hot midsummer day so       long ago.        "I saw them. I even touched one of the creatures. I put my       hand on their ship. And I wasn't alone - my dad, my uncle, my       brother and my cousin all saw the same things. And so did a lot       of other people. But they aren't talking.        Anderson is talking, pubicly, after 43 years of silence.        Among those listening most intently are some of the foremost       researchers into unidentified flying object (UFO phenomena.       These experts say Gerald Anderson appears to be an important link       in a frustratingly fragmented chain of evidence concerning the       most famous - or infamous - chapter in UFO annals: the so called       "Roswell Incident."        No one denies that "something" happened in July 1947 in       central New Mexico, cradle of U.S. nuclear and rocket technology.       However, military authorities insist reports of strange craft in       the sky and bizare wreckage on the ground were traced at the time       to an errant weather balloon and other manmade or natural       circumstance.        Nonetheless, over the years, persistent whispered rumors grew       into published articles and books, even movies, which fanned       speculation that what actually occured was a visit by creatures       from another planet - an intergalactic expedition that turned to       tragedy on the high desert and then into a massive coverup in the       highest circles of the U.S. government.        Anderson says he was unaware of ongoing fascination and       controversy over the strange episode from his childhood until one       evening this past January when he was flipping through channels       on his television set and stumbled across the popular program       "Unsolved Mysteries."        "I wasn't looking for any unsolved mysteries - I have enough       mysteries in my life that are unsolved, and I don't need any       more," Anderson jokes. He is a burly, barrel-chested man       standing 6-4 and carrying a muscular 250-plus pounds, with       reddish hair and a rudy complexion creased from easy laughter.        "But, bingo! On comes this story, and everything was wrong,"       Anderson recalls of the TV show. On sudden impulse, he dialed an       800 phone number that flashed onto the screen. "I guess I figured       that if people were still interested in this thing, they might as       well get it straight" is the only explanation he can muster for       speaking up after years of keeping mostly mum on the matter.        "These people don't know what they're talking about," Anderson       told the operator on the other end of the long-distance line.       "The shape of the craft is totally wrong. 'And how do you know       that, sir?" she asked. ' I saw it, I was there,' I told her.       "Whoa!" she said. "Thee are some people who will want to talk to       you...'"        Anderson's phone soon was ringing with calls from UFO       researchers around the country. One in particular, Stanton       Friedman, a nuclear physicist and popular lecturer who had       advised the "Unsolved Mysteries" producers, was struck by       correlations between Anderson's recollections and obscure       details Friedman uncovered while sleuthing for a book to be       published next year.       -+----- continued ----------                      Friedman, who lives in Canada, contacted John Carpenter, a       Springfield professional therapist who in his spare time serves as a       director of investigations for the local chapter of Mutual UFO       Network, a nationwide orgainization of UFO researchers. At Friedman's       request, Carpenter conducted extensive in person interviews of       Anderson, including sessions under hypnosis.        The results excited Friedman. "Powerful stuff!" he exclaimed upon       hearing interview tapes. Friedman arranged airline tickets for       Anderson and Carpent to join him in New Mexico to pinpoint the crash       site.        Anderson says the flight was his first return to New Mexico in more       than a quarter-century. After poining the pilot of a chartered       helicopter to a spot in the desert 75 air miles southwest of       Albuquerque, Anderson gazed at a hillside, strewn with boulders the       size of Volkswagens and dotted with a few gnarled pinion trees, that       he says he saw in the summer of 1947.....       A NEW HOME        The Anderson family arrived in Albuquerque from Indiana on July 4,       1947. they took up temporary residence at the home of one of Gerald's       uncles, Guy Anderson. Gerald's father, Glen, was about to take a job       as a master machinist involved in nuclear weapons design at the       super-secret Sandia base on the outskirts of town.        The next day, another uncle, Ted, struck up a conversation with       Gerald's older brother Glen Jr., who was on leave from the Marine       Corps. Glen Jr. was a rockhound, and his uncle piqued the young       Marine's enthusiasm with talkes of gorgeous stones just waiting to be       collected in the desert.        " Ted told my brother, ' I know where there's plenty of moss agate.'       So we all piked into a 1940 Plymouth - Uncle Ted, my cousin Victor       (Ted's 8 year old son), my brother, Glen, my dad and myself. We went       out into this area where the moss agate was supposed to be - followed       two ruts into the desert, bounced along out there for a while, and       ended up on top of a ridgeline. We parked the car and started to walk       down an arroyo (gully) and dry creek bed and out onto the plains.              A STRANGE DISCOVERY        "But we came around a corner and right there in front of us stuck       into the side of this hill, was a silver disc. There were some       remarks like"There's a crash up here! Somthing's crashed up here! And       then someone saying 'That's a goddam spaceship!"        "We all went up there to it. There were three creatures, three       bodies, lying on the ground underneath this thing in the shade. Two       weren't moving and the third one obviously was having trouble       breathing, like when you have broken ribs. There was a fourth one       next to it, sitting there on the ground. There wasn't a thing wrong       with it, and it apparently had been giving first aid to the others.        Anderson animatedly acts out the fourth creature's reaction when       the family members approached. "It recoiled in fear, like it thought       we were going to attack it," anderson recounts, covering his face with       crossed arms. The adults tried to repeatedly to communicate with the       frightened creature, Anderson says, but there was no audible response       to greetings spoken in English and Spanish.        A few minutes after the Anderson clan happened upon the bizarre       scene, six other people arrived - five college students and their       teacher. They'd been working on an archeological dig around cliff       dwellings a few miles away and had decided to hike over after seeing       what they thought was a firey meteor crashing the night before. The       professor, a Dr. Buskirk, tried several foreign languages in       unsuccessful attempts to coax a verbal response from the creature,       Anderson says.        The sun had climbed to a midday peak by this time and recalls       anderson, "to a kid from Indiana, it was hot brother, let me tell       you." He chugged a chocolate flavored soft drink an hour earlier and       the sweet soda pop was churning uncomfortably in his stomach. so he       sought shelter in the shadow of the spacecraft.        "It was 115 (degrees) out there that day. But around the craft,       when you got close to it, it was cold. When you touched the metal, it       felt just like it came out of a freezer."       -+----continued----------                     SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT        Anderson also touched one of the creatures lying motionless on the       ground - and it, too was cold. In his child's mind, he had thought the       figures looked like dolls. But when he felt the colk skin, " I knew       something wasn't quite right. Yuck!.        Anderson says he ran to the crest of a nearby knoll to take stock. A       pickup truck arrived on the ridge, and a fellow whom researchers believe       was a civil engineer named Barney Barnett joined the curious audience. "I       remember thinking he looked like Harry Truman. In 1947, every kid knew       what Harry Truman looked like," Anderson says.        After a few minutes, Anderson summoned the courage to agin creep close       to the strange saucer. It was then more chilling than the surface of the       craft of the skin of the corpse; The upright creature turned and looked       right at me and it was like he was inside my head - as if he was doing my       thinking, as if his thoughts were in my head."        Anderson remembers a mental sensation of falling and tumbling       end-over-end. "I felt that thing's fear, felt its depression, felt its       loneliness. I relived the crash. I know the terror it went through. That       one look told me everything that quickly," he says with a snap of his       fingers.        Other things began happening quickly about this time, Anderson says. A       contingent of armed soldiers suddenly appeared. The creature, which had       calmed down after its initial fright, "went crazy" at the sight of the       soldiers. Thinking back on the creature's plight today brings on the       "awfulest, horrible feeling," Anderson says.        "His situation was hopeless. He knew it. He'd just lived through a       nightmare that most of us wouldn't be able to psychologically stand. He'd       watched two of his crew, his friends or maybe even his family die. He's       watching another one die. He knows there's no chance of rescue, because the       military is here and his people aren't going to be able to get him.        "God only knows how far away from home he was, and he knew he was never       going to see - if they have loved ones - his loved ones again. He was       totally alone on a hostile planet, and the only people who where showing       him kindness were being run off by the military at weapon-point.        "As a kid, I was aware of what being afriad of the dark was like., and       the feeling I got from him was that feeling multiplied a million times. It       was scary. It was terrifying.              SOLDIERS ON THE SCENE        Anderson says he lost sight of the creature as the soldiers swarmed over       the site. The civilians were brusquely shoved from the craft. Anderson       remembers shouts and threats. His uncle Ted threw a punch at one of       the GIs. "Things got very tense, very dangerious," Anderson says.       "The soldiers ushered us out of there very unceremoniously. Their       attitude, to describe it at best, was uncivilized."        Anderson has an especially vivid memory of a tough-talking red       haired Army captain and an equally gruff black sergeant. "They told       my dad and my uncle, who also worked at Sandia, that if they were ever       to divulge anything about this - it was a secret military aircraft,       they said - then us kids would be taken away and they'd never see us       again." It seems an outrageious threat in hindsight, Anderson       concedes. But at the time, he reminds, "These people had machine guns       and you listened to what they said."        Another recollection strikes Anderson as odd today: The soldiers       didn't appear surprised about the otherwordly craft and creatures.       they didn't gawk, slack-jawed and awestruck as the Andersons had done.       "The soldiers weren't saying, 'Gee, look at that!" They were very       cognizant of what they were looking at. They knew what it was.        And it soon became apparent, Anderson says, that the Army knew what       it wanted to do with the find. "there was a battalion of military, a       real invasion force, when we got back up on the hilltop. Thee were       trucks, there wre airplanes - they had the road blocked off and they       wre landing on it. They had radio communications gear set up. There       were ambulances, and more soldiers with weapons."        In the days that followed, all of New Mexico was abuzz with talk of       strange lights in the sky, strange echos on radar, strange doings in       the desert. On July 7, new reports told of remnants of an       unidentified aircraft found by a rancher near the town of Roswell,       N.M. about 150 miles east of the hillside where the Anderson's stumbled       upon the saucer.        Although several witnesses said it was like nothing they'd ever       seen before, military officers insisted the metallic pieces came from       an ordinary weather balloon.....       -+-------continued-------------                     A WEATHER BALLOON?        Forty three years later, Anderson smiles wryly when reminded of the       Army's pronouncement, "A lot of people wondered why, if it was just a       weather balloon, the military put the pieces under armed guard and flew       them in a B-29 to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio," he observes.        Anderson believes the wreckage scattered near Roswell and the barely       damaged saucer on the Plains of San Agustin are connected. "There was a       gash in the side of the disc we saw, like it had been crushed in," he says.       "The contour of the craft would fit into that gash perfectly - like another       one of these things had hit it. I think two of these discs had a mid-air       collision. One exploded and feel in pieces near Roswell, and the other       crash-landed where we found it.        With all evidence confiscated and the military steadfastly sticking       by the weather balloon explanation, the story faded from the news by July's       end. And Gerald Anderson says he tucked away the memory as he grew into       manhood. "I learned you just don't go up to the average person on the       street and say, "Damn, know what I saw?" The guy will go, "Get away from       me, fool! Are you crazy?" In later life, he didn't mention it even to his       wife until a few years after their marriage.        Anderson joined the Navy in the late 1950s and served a dozen years in       posts around the globe. He lived for a few years in Colorado, working as a       parmedic and working toward a college degree in microbiology. In 1979, he       moved to Missouri to better raise his daughter away from what he terms the       "druggy" atmosphere of Denver. In addition to his law enforcement posts,       Anderson has worked for two southwest Missouri trucking firms as a driver       and instructor.        Anderson also has been active in the Episcopal Church. He recently was       elected to the vestry at Ascension Episcopal in Springfield and is studying       toward becoming a deacon. A gold crucifix - a cross complete with a       figure of the martyred Christ affixed to it - suspended from a chain around       Anderson's neck is testimony to his faith.              NO CONFLICT IN BELIEFS        Although he concedes his account might make some fellow churchgoers       uncomfortable, Anderson sees no conflict between what he saw with his eyes       and what he believes in his heart: "When you're talking about the concept       of God, you have to be talking in the context of a universal situations, a       deity that built the whole universe. And why should we assume that this       speck of sand in the backwater of space would be the only place that an       all-perfect, almighty God could create life?"                       **********************************************        * THE U.F.O. 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