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   SUBJECT: UFO INFO Service Reports                            FILE: UFO1119   
      
   PART 36   
      
    Report #: 196   
        From: UFO INFO SERVICE            
   Date Sent: 12-01-1986   
     Subject: BURIEN, WA                  
      
   CASE TYPE:  LRS - NL   
        DATE:  30 NOVEMBER 1986     
        TIME:  0155 HOURS      
    DURATION:  30 - 45: SECONDS     
   WITNESSES:  TWO   
      SOURCE:  CUFON - UFO INFORMATION SERVICE     
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   John Williams of KIRO television called CUFON - UFO Information Service   
   with a report that he had received from a witness near Burien, WA.   
   The witness reported seeing some kind of object in the southern sky   
   coming at him with smoke coming out the back of it and appeared to   
   break apart.  There was one light and it then broke off in like 4-5   
   different off shoots with smoke on each one.  The witness and his   
   mom with several others said it appeared to be a parachute that went   
   right over their heads, but it was moving very very quickly.  The   
   metal object with a parachute on it went over their heads and the   
   other off shoot pieces went in different directions.  What appeared   
   to be a parachute the witness did not think was as it went over his   
   head very very fast.  John Williams also stated that after receiving   
   the report he called the Sea-Tac duty officer at FAA and he said that   
   it could have been in cloud lightning because there were no military   
   aircraft in the area at that time.   
       
   CUFON - UFO Information Service then called the witness to get his   
   direct report.  The witness stated that he was over at his parents   
   when he saw a bright light coming out of the south.  He thought it   
   was one of the lights from a jet coming into the airport at first   
   as they are right by the airport, but realized it couldn't be because   
   the Sea-Tac Burien airport would be farther to the east.  Then his   
   mom came out and he pointed it out and her description of it was the   
   best, she described it as a sparkler where you are looking at the   
   center of it with smoke coming off it.  As the bright light started   
   dimming you could still see the smoke.  It seemed to break up and   
   he lost track of all the other pieces save one.  It looked as if they   
   had flown off it.  The one big piece came sailing out and it looked   
   like a parachute with something on the end of it heading from south   
   to north slightly northeast over their heads at what seemed like an   
   incredible velocity.  It looked, shape wise, like a parachute. The   
   fact that it seemed to be going so fast made him think it had to be   
   some kind of space craft or something.  He never saw it descend, it   
   just shot across the sky.  Observation was 30-45 seconds.   
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    Report #: 197   
        From: UFO INFO SERVICE            
   Date Sent: 12-01-1986   
     Subject: CULVER CITY, CA             
      
   CASE TYPE:  LRS - NL   
        DATE:  21 NOVEMBER 1986     
        TIME:  2340 - 2345 HOURS    
    DURATION:  05-07: MINUTES       
   WITNESSES:  ONE   
      SOURCE:  CUFON - UFO INFORMATION SERVICE     
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   One witness reported seeing over her street, LaSalle, an object that   
   the nose of it looked like a boomerang with a pyramid bottom.  It   
   was a very windy and particularly clear night and when she looked   
   to the north she saw a formation coming towards her and her first   
   impression was that it was a flock of birds and then as it got closer   
   it looked like a formation of stars.  They had a luminous glow to   
   them and they didn't look like head lamps or anything like that.   
   As it came closer she noticed there were more lights going across   
   the bottom of it like a stingray - solid at least underneath and she   
   could not see through it.  As it came towards her the lights shut   
   off in the center and only the outline was left on.  Stayed there   
   for about 5-7 minutes watching.  As it came over her it went further   
   up in the sky and it was weird as no light in the belly of it but   
   she could see a formation of it and what it looked like but it kept   
   fading in and out.  The lights in the front of the object stayed on,   
   no noise.  The object was much larger than any plane she has ever   
   seen from wing to wing.  A boomerang has very wide angles from one   
   end to the other as the object did also, and the nose of the object   
   was not sharp.   
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    Report #: 198   
        From: UFO INFO SERVICE            
   Date Sent: 12-10-1986   
     Subject: BAKERSFIELD, CA             
      
   CASE TYPE:  LRS   
        DATE:  12 JULY 1986    
        TIME:  UNKNOWN    
    DURATION:  UNKNOWN    
   WITNESSES:  THREE      
      SOURCE:  MERCURY NEWS, SAN JOSE, CA     
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   REDONDO BEACH - Andy Hoyt admits he has no proof - not anymore, at   
   least - that he witnessed the crash of an aircraft that may be the   
   Pentagon's most carefully guarded secret.   
      
   His sister, Lisa, and her 16-year-old son, Joey, reportedly also saw   
   the plane, but both declined to discuss the alleged incident.  Hoyt,   
   an unemployed Redondo Beach carpenter, says he snapped photographs   
   of the plane as it plummeted to the ground in the Sequoia National   
   Forest near Bakersfield.   
      
   But the photographs were given to the Air Force, Hoyt says, and the   
   Air Force isn't talking.   
      
   Defense experts, however, say Hoyt's description of what he claims   
   he saw that night fits the most educated guesses of the configuration   
   of the top secret F-19 stealth fighter - a plane the Air Force will   
   not confirm even exists.   
      
   In a scenario that sounds like a science fiction movie, Hoyt says   
   he and two relatives saw something drop out of the sky and explode   
   into flames on the other side of a hill about a half-mile away.   
      
   "It seemed like it was something other than an airplane, said Hoyt,   
   26, who was on a camping trip. "Believe it or not, I thought it was   
   a UFO."   
      
   Whatever it was, he says, the military has been treating him royally   
   since he called Edwards Air Force Base when he returned home the following   
   Sunday evening and told the Air Force about the photographs.   
      
   Hoyt says he and his party were driving east on state Highway 178   
   about 15 miles northeast of Bakersfiled in the early morning hours   
   of July 12 when they pulled over for a brief rest.  He was just climbing   
   back into his truck when he saw it.   
      
   "All I saw were three red lights and a dark image behind them like   
   an upside-down triangle."  Hoyt said, adding that each light was at   
   a point of the triangle.  He said he pulled a camera from the dashboard   
   of the truck and managed to take two or three pictures before the   
   plane disappeared over the hill.   
      
   Then, a pair of explosions "lit up the sky like it was daylight out."    
      
   Contrary to published reports on the day of the accident, Hoyt says,   
   the aircraft did not explode before it crashed.  At least one Air   
   Force source has been quoted as saying plane exploded in midair, which   
   could explain why the pilot, who was killed, was not able to eject   
   safetly.   
      
   "It was definitely not on fire when it came down," Hoyt said.  "Why   
   couldn't the guy eject?"   
      
   After making sure the blaze was reported on an emergency roadside   
   phone, the party continued to its campground north of nearby Lake   
   Isabella.   
      
   His call to Edwards upon returning home brought a sudden response   
   from the Air Force, Hoyt says.  "They took my name and number and   
   within an hour someone had flown down here and talked to me," he said.   
      
   "They didn't press me, but they wanted to see the film in my camera."     
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