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   SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve                                 FILE: UFO1072   
      
   PART 29   
      
   Bill----Ok, tell me about Area 51.   
      
   Man-----Area 51 is at Groom Lake in Nevada.  Its the   
           headquarters of Redlight.......The saucers are flown   
           there.  Its part of the test range...Its on the map..   
           its just a dry lake bed with a Top Secret   
           installation built on and around it.   
      
   Bill----Have you seen one fly?   
      
   Man-----Yes, they are incredibly fast and make no noise at   
           all.   
      
   Bill----Is the one at Area 51 the same as the one at Edwards?   
      
   Man-----One was the same....the other one I saw looks like a   
           diamond.......like in a womans engagement ring.....if   
           you take the diamond out of a ring and turn it upside   
           down......thats what it looks like.   
      
   Bill----You mean literally like a diamond?   
      
   Man-----No, but the shape is the same.....it really   
           glows....but only when it flys.  On the ground it is   
           the same metal as the saucer at Edwards....when it   
           flys it glows like the sun and sometimes changes   
           colors.   
      
   Bill----How close were you when you saw it?   
      
   Man-----Not close...no one was allowed to get close....   
           I think it emmitted radiation because we were all   
           required to wear dosimeters and they had to be   
           checked daily.   
      
   Bill----You mean it was atomic powered?   
      
   Man-----I don't know.....I only know there was a definate   
           radiation hazard and our dosimeters were checked   
           daily.  We turned them in to be checked and were   
           issued new ones every day.   
      
   Bill----How long did you stay at Area 51?   
      
   Man-----The first time was for 3 months....Nobody ever stayed   
           more than a few months.  The second time I was there   
           was for almost 5 months.....its like wartime there   
           were no passes while at Area 51....we had excellent   
           recreation facilitys though.   
      
   Bill----I hate to press you but I would like to know more   
           about Dreamland.  My information seems to conflict   
           with yours.  I have information that the Alien base   
           is in New Mexico, is that where Dreamland is?   
      
   Man-----There is more than one base and I have to go now....   
           I should not be talking to you about anything at all.   
           Its all too dangerous....even more than you   
           think.....I don't know everything but I know that its   
           way out of control and to tell you the truth I'm   
           afraid of what is going to happen.....Don't ask me   
           what because I don't know but........I know something   
           is going to happen.......Giant underground shelters   
           are being built under Groom Lake.....and in other   
           places.  From reading your papers you know more about   
           a lot of this than I do.....I really do have to go   
           now....Its Christmas Eve and I live a ways off.   
      
   Bill----Before you go would you look over these notes and   
           make sure they're right?   
      
   Man-----I watched you write and its right.  What are you   
           going to do with those notes?   
      
   Bill----I'll make a file and release this in the form of an   
           interview without identifying you.   
      
   Man-----If you do I'll call you a liar.   
      
   Bill----I won't identify you and just so you will feel better   
           I have never identified any of my sources.  If you   
           ever want to talk again you have my phone number.   
      
   Man-----I don't think so....you had better be real careful...   
           I mean about yourself....I really wouldn't give   
           anyone else those notes....You should think about it.   
      
   Bill----What do you think will happen?   
      
   Man-----The same thing that has happened to ......some others   
           .......you should just drop it.....you....nobody can   
           do anything.   
      
      
   The rest was just parting conversation.  He seemed to be very   
   sincere and very worried about what he was telling and   
   worried about my safety as well as his own.   
      
   This is the second person who has described a saucer at   
   Edwards, the same security badge, and reference to Dreamland   
   keeps coming up with these people.  This is the first time I   
   have heard that there is more than one alien base and it is   
   the first time I have heard of bounty hunters.  I think the   
   reference to a radiation hazard and the use of dosemeters is   
   also significant in view of the incident in Texas involving   
   the two women.  John Lear told me that Dreamland was at   
   Edwards.  Personally I do not know the location.  Just the   
   name "DREAMLAND" is so far away from the normal military   
   trend of naming projects and places that it provokes   
   questions.  I would like to point out that at one point my   
   sources told me the alien base was at Dreamland then they   
   told me it wasn't true and backed away from it.  The name   
   keeps cropping up in connection with the alien base.   
   Reference to loss of memory is also common with abductees.  I   
   found this interview to be personally disturbing.   
      
   Where possible I wrote down the questions and answers and   
   those are written exactly as asked and as answered.  At some   
   points the conversation is reconstructed from my notes but   
   was done as soon as I arrived home and I am certain that it   
   is accurate.  Having just met this man I have no clue as to   
   his motives or to the accuracy of the information.  However I   
   do believe he was sincere and the range of emotions he   
   expressed would have been difficult for even a very good   
   professional actor.   
      
   (NOTE!  A "dosemeter" is (or was when I was in service) a   
   piece of film in a small badge that is worn by personnel when   
   working in areas where they may be exposed to radiation.   
   If the film is hit by a dose of radiation it is exposed.  The   
   amount of film exposure determines the exact dose of   
   radiation.  When I was in the Strategic Air Command I had to   
   wear one because the alert pad aircraft carried nuclear   
   weapons.  Our dosemeters were checked weekly.  If the   
   dosemeter indicated that you had been exposed to radiation   
   then you had to go through a decontamination procedure.   
   During my time in service my dosemeter never indicated any   
   exposure to radiation.  This explanation is offered for those   
   of you who may not have known what a dosemeter is.)   
      
   end of part 29   
      
                
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