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   Message 991 of 1,237   
   Nick Boel to Maurice Kinal   
   Re: 40 Cups of Coffee   
   05 Apr 25 20:30:24   
   
   TZUTC: -0500   
   MSGID: 334.tuxpower@1:154/700 2c57107e   
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   PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/e2e350d1d Apr 04 2025 GCC 14.2.1   
   TID: SBBSecho 3.24-Linux master/e2e350d1d Apr 04 2025 GCC 14.2.1   
   BBSID: PHARCYDE   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   NOTE: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux)   
   Hey Maurice!   
      
   On Sat, Apr 05 2025 13:36:50 -0500, you wrote:   
      
    > A little worse for wear but yes I am not dead yet.  Still gettting    
    > probed and scanned as they still haven't found the cause.   
      
   What are they probing and scanning for?   
      
    > Heh, heh.  I think the opposite but am unsure if he had anything to    
    > do with it.  Seems to me that about 15-ish years ago, maybe more, MS    
    > came up with a windows release where UTF-16 was the default, which of    
    > course wreaked havoc given the lack of compatibility with standard    
    > 7-bit and 8-bit character sets that everyone was using and still are.     
    > Since MS adopted UTF-8 instead, I haven't heard anything about that    
    > particular fsck-up since.   
      
   It seems 15 years ago was around the time of WinXP and Win7. I've even   
   recently installed both of those in a virtual machine to check out some old   
   BBS software, and I don't remember anything odd in regards to charsets. As far   
   as I can remember, the command prompt has always used CP437, but there was a   
   time I didn't use Windows at all (nothing in between Win 3.11 for Workgroups   
   and Win2kPro, and then I never used ME or Vista, either).   
      
   A quick look at Wikipedia states that Windows has been using UTF-16 since   
   Windows 2000, and didn't support UTF-8 in it's API until 2019. If that is the   
   case, it was a thing for a lot longer than we thought..   
      
    >> I definitely wasn't serious   
      
    > I am not surprised.   
      
   Does my new tagline sway your decision on that? ;)   
      
    > Probably, but I do prefer the layout I posted as opposed to the    
    > glibc's gconv-modules or 'iconv --list' and especially IANA's html    
    > page of encodings and corresponding aliases.  The posting in this    
    > echoarea is more along the line of file listings on BBSes which is    
    > vastly more humanly readable than anything else I've seen.   
      
   When is the last time you actually listed files on a BBS? If it's been awhile,   
   you can check the address in my origin line. However, I'd recommend CP437   
   capabilities in some capacity. I can use a UTF-8 enabled Putty client with   
   proper settings to telnet and it displays pretty good (CP437 and UTF-8),   
   though.   
      
    > HTML definetly sucks.  Beats me why anyone in their right mind would    
    > subscribe to that format over plain text output, including    
    > (espcially?) UTF-8.  :::sigh:::   
      
   The incessant need for fancy emojis, maybe?   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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