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   Nick Boel to August Abolins   
   Re: 40 Cups of Coffee   
   06 Apr 25 11:37:04   
   
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   NOTE: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux)   
   Hey August!   
      
   On Sun, Apr 06 2025 10:35:00 -0500, you wrote:   
      
    > I don't there is UTF-8 support on the incoming.  OpenXP is a     
    > terminal/console program afterall.   
      
   I'm currently using slrn (a linux console newsreader) that displays UTF-8 just   
   fine, just as well as most other console based Linux applications I use here,   
   so I don't think this is really an excuse/reason. Maybe moreso for Windows,   
   though.   
      
    > I just tried the dove-tech-talk echo, and the TLDR material     
    > with OpenXP looks messy with unresolved conversions.  So, not     
    > sure what you consider is "handles very nicely".   
      
   Either something on your end must not be configured correctly for this. You   
   have to enable UTF-8 and there might have even been some mime decoding options   
   in the only place OpenXP has these settings (I don't remember exactly). You'll   
   see what I mean when you have it configured right. Or, it could be Windows   
   specific where it doesn't work as well.   
      
   It's also possible I set this up more precisely on Linux, and maybe didn't get   
   this far in regards to setup on Windows.. after realizing the Windows command   
   prompt doesn't work anything like a Linux console in regards to UTF-8. After   
   fiddling with Windows' code page 65001 for about 30 minutes, I gave up on it   
   and downloaded/installed it on Linux to see if I could get further.   
      
   However, I did just find this:   
      
   https://github.com/microsoft/terminal   
      
    > Oh.. so yes.. the plaintext is what OpenXP does well.   
      
   I'd have to agree with you there. At least the ascii part of it. I don't even   
   think I spent much time checking on CP437 as I probably assumed it just   
   worked, but I'm guessing that works OK?   
      
    > I doubt that OpenXP can ever support UTF-8 like in gui-type     
    > windows.  The limitation is the charset/font support in Windows     
    > DOS terminal.  I currently use Lucinda TT console.  It has     
    > limits to what foreign chars it supports. German, French,     
    > Italian, Spanish chars are supported.   
      
   Sure it can. At least on Linux. Windows console may need a bit more work, but   
   that's way above my pay grade.   
      
   You could try using 'chcp 65001' to change to whatever MS considers it's UTF-8   
   console support.   
      
    > AFIK, OpenXP maintains UTF-8 chars on the outbound in NNTP-type     
    > areas.  Not sure if it renders as expected on the inbound.   
      
   I didn't try sending anything off, however on display it was all question   
   marks. I questioned it even more when I got Dovenet's Tech Talk area to   
   display properly (minus html and also mime decoded - as good as my console   
   newsreaders handle it) with UTF-8 characters and glyphs.   
      
    > I *did* kinda kickstart a push to have some problems corrected.   
      
   There may be one left to push! :)   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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