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   Daniel to Benjamin Toussaint   
   Re: Picard   
   10 Sep 20 07:02:00   
   
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   -=> Benjamin Toussaint wrote to Daniel <=-   
      
      
    > I never caught Enterprise. I tried a few episodes and I couldn't get into   
    > it. But the ship did look like an Akira class which rates as among a   
    > favorite type for me.   
      
    > Plus, I didn't really like the cast.   
      
    BT> I do not like prequels in general. The cast is something you need to   
    BT> get used to, but still it was "more Star Trek-y" than anything else   
    BT> that came after it.   
      
   Valid point.   
      
    BT> The original ST does have a lot of political statements related to the   
    BT> time it was made. But instead of criticism against political actors,   
    BT> especially not specific ones, ST used to show a vision about better   
    BT> alternatives and kept the science within the fiction as "possible as   
    BT> possible".   
    BT> This is probably the reason so many nerds and science people love it.   
      
   Quite true. In my view, those 'statements' regarding political events or   
   policies seemed to wax philosophical. They seemed to be intellectual exercise   
   or   
   thought experiment on moral implications.   
      
   Think of the episode 'Who's watching the Watchers' from Season 3 of TNG. It was   
   a brilliant exercise on the long term manipulation of an entire people when   
   they   
   mistake Picard for an ancient mythological god when the culture had long   
   discarded their myths.   
      
   Picard took a stand by stating that in doing so, he would be erasing their   
   achievement.   
      
   Quote: 'Millenia ago they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now you   
   are asking me to sabotage that achievement. To send them back into the dark   
   ages   
   of superstition and ignorance and fear? No.'   
      
   One of my favorite stands. But it discussed an important moral stand. In modern   
   day discussions, there are indigenous groups of human in various areas of the   
   world who are uncontacted. There is a push to contact them and civilize them,   
   while the local governments have banned such practices and allowing them to   
   live   
   in peace.   
      
    BT> To me, dreaming about a better world and thinking how to achieve it has   
    BT> always been a way better attitude than ranting about the existing one.   
      
   Totally.   
      
    BT> Yes... we will likely have to accept, that "our" Star Trek might never   
    BT> return again.   
      
   mhm :(   
      
   Daniel Traechin   
      
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