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   Daniel to Chris Krascek   
   Re: new trek shows   
   22 Jun 20 08:05:00   
   
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   -=> Chris Krascek wrote to Daniel <=-   
      
    D>  CK> I've tried watching Discovery and I can't seem to get into it. I admit   
    D>  CK> I was I was excited to see it but as I kept watching, it just lacked   
    D>  CK> what I knew to be trek. Now, this Picard show, is exactly what I   
    D>  CK> needed. It's not TNG obviously but it seems to make more sense in its   
    D>  CK> flow. I'm really looking forward to Season 2.   
    D>   
    D> I can't get into picard. The writing isn't trekky and the side characters   
   ar   
    D> bleh. The vulcan security chief, sporting raybans, ugh. It's baaaaaaadddddd   
    D> my opinion. I watched until the beginning of episode seven and gave up. It   
   w   
    D> a wasted torrent download for me.   
    CK> Hmmm, I see your point on that. No doubt there are aspects of that   
    CK> series which I did not care for... but to me it had enough TNG   
    CK> reference and of course Picard that held it together. It truly was a   
    CK> different feel thats for sure. I understand that they are looking to   
    CK> make a series with Pike, some exploration thing. What are your thoughts   
    CK> on that one?   
      
   With today's atmosphere of social justice warrior garbage and board room   
   decisions destroying art, I'm afraid we'll never see a true star trek saga   
   again. The original series, tng, voyager, etc timelines are tired. If it were a   
   perfect world, I'd like to see something edgy like an exploration on the   
   origination of the Borg in the D quadrant before transwarp. It would be early   
   into their development as a warp society, with a home planet, government, and a   
   growing threat of insurrection from culture warriors who eventually gain   
   influence in the borg society. If they could do something like that where, at   
   the end of 7-8 seasons, they've created an early collective where they still   
   have individuality while disconnected from the hive, and then become one as   
   they connect i'd watch every episode. They would discard members who refuse to   
   comply with the changes.   
      
   Followup movies would further explore how they lost all sense of   
   community/culture and become a threat to any society it encounters. They win   
   some and lose some, but not as formidable as we've come to know. Upon the   
   conclusion of a trilogy of flicks, they'd end the last movie with the emergence   
   of the first borg queen. She'll open her eyes with a look of absolution and   
   they'd quickly pan out through the ship and outside, continuously panning out   
   until you realize they've built their first borg cube.   
      
   This would be played over broadcast TV.   
      
   I just laid out a vision for 15 years of TV entertainment   
      
   A series involving Pike, I'm afraid, would only destroy the mystique   
   surrounding that character. They'd make him a bisexual who listens to klingon   
   music, does yoga, eats vulcan food, and decries the evil of capitalism. His   
   ready room would have a picture of Castro hanging next to his empty fish tank.   
   Oh, and he'd be a vegan who'd espouse how evolved he is while surrounding   
   himself with a bunch of crunchy feminists who'd laugh at everything he says.   
      
   Sorry, I'm a pessimist these days. I'll just stick with TOS and be done with   
   it. All good things.   
      
   Daniel Traechin   
      
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