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   Message 20,708 of 20,898   
   Daniel to Al Kaiser   
   Re: Star Trek Discovery   
   20 Apr 20 05:13:00   
   
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   -=> Al Kaiser wrote to All <=-   
      
    AK> I just finished watching the first two seasons of Star Trek DIscovery   
    AK> on DVD from Netflix.   
      
   I forgot netflix still delivers DVD. We cancelled the streaming service   
   about two years ago and we're happy about it.   
      
    AK> It is NOT Gene Roddenberry's Trek!  I do not think that he would have   
    AK> approved of this series.  First of all for the language.  In all of   
    AK> Trek I only remember one out and out cuss when the ship was crashing   
    AK> into the planet Data said "Oh Shit!"  This one has out and out swearing   
    AK> including the "F" word.  Also open gay kissing.   The suggestion of   
    AK> "gaity" is OK but to have two male or female character kiss on screen   
    AK> is a no-no.  Also there were aliens in this series that were never seen   
    AK> again in all of Trek.  The whole Klingon war thing in the first season   
    AK> was wrong.  This Trek was supposed to be a bridge between Enterprise   
    AK> with Archer and TOS with Kirk.  The war with the Klingons was over and   
    AK> we were in a truce, a cold war.  Remember The Trouble With Tribbles?   
    AK> That was the way we were with the Klingons.  The Klingon makeup and   
    AK> laanguae was all wrong.  The Klingon home planet was wrong.  The home   
    AK> planet in Trek was "Kling" not Kronos.   Kronos came later in the   
    AK> series.   Finally the out and out violence.  Murder by the fedration?   
    AK> I think not.   They made Mudd an out and out criminal that should have   
    AK> been given the death sentence or at least a life sentence.  They made   
    AK> him a murder rather than just a scrondrel.   
      
   Don't forget Star Trek IV. "Why don't you watch where you're going you    
   dumbass!" "Well a double-dumbass on you!!!"   
      
   Then the following conversation on colorful metaphors. Great movie that way.   
      
    AK> Spock, who was a large part of season two never had a step-sister.  He   
    AK> had a half brother who was never mentioned.  I saw only three   
    AK> references to TOS one was Mudd and the other whas when Pike picked up   
    AK> the future Spike and saw himself disfigured, also Vena and the   
    AK> Talosians were in the mix.   They tried to get back to Trek cannon in   
    AK> the last two scenes in Part II of Sweet Sorrow when they had a scene on   
    AK> the bridge of the Entrprise as it appease, (modernly), when Pike was   
    AK> Captain and Spock was the Lt. Science Officer.   
      
   I've seen some scene clips on youtube and Spock smiles too much. Pissed me   
   off. Not sure what that's about.   
      
    AK> THey tried to write off all that happened over the two years by sending   
    AK> the Discovery and her crew into the future.  For anyone left they were   
    AK> resticted "under penalty of death" of every taking or mentioning   
    AK> Discovery and the events that happened in the first two seasons.  Even   
    AK> Sarek and Amanda were self quarrentined from talking about it calling   
    AK> them "Ambasadors To the Federation." Sarek was an Ambasador, Amanda   
    AK> never was.   
      
    AK> Was this a two year effort with no more seasons of Discovery?  How do   
    AK> you have a season 3 when Discovery and all her crew is dead or gone?   
      
    AK> Well I'm waiting for "Picard" to come out on DVD. A friend says it is   
    AK> very good and is "good Trek".  Though I do have a disagrement that Data   
    AK> was blown to smithereens in the last movie, but he said that Data was   
    AK> reconstruced from DNA taken when they tried to disassemble him when   
    AK> Picard fought to call him sentient.  We'll see about that one.   
      
   I'm hearing the Picard show is all about Stewart saying 'F U' to Trump.    
   Oh, gawd, I really crave star trek as I knew it growing up.   
      
      
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