From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: nope@noway.com   
   Subject: Re: IDW Does Harlan Ellison   
      
   In article , David Johnston   
    wrote:   
      
   > On 7/15/2014 9:23 AM, A Friend wrote:   
   > > In article , Daniel   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 15/07/2014 12:30 PM, A Friend wrote:   
   > >>> In article , Jim G.   
   > >>>  wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> A classic revisited, just as Harlan envisioned it...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> The City that Never Sleeps or Goes Away: Harlan Ellison and Star Trek,   
   > >>>> Again   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/07/the-city-that-never-slee   
   s-or-goes-away-   
   > >>>> ha   
   > >>>> rla   
   > >>>> n-ellison-and-star-trek-again   
   > >>>> or http://preview.tinyurl.com/l4sppdm   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> QUOTE   
   > >>>> Adapted for the comics by IDWrCUs primary Trek writers Scott and David   
   > >>>> Tipton, and with beautiful art by J.K. Woodward (who did slick work on   
   > >>>> the Doctor Who/TNG crossover a few years ago) everything about this   
   > >>>> release is totally legit. In the debut issue of this limited run (there   
   > >>>> will be five in all) IDW Trek editor Chris Ryall writes fondly about how   
   > >>>> this venture was his idea, and one that took some convincing of   
   > >>>> everybody to go along with. In his words, over time rCRnosrC# turned   
   into   
   > >>>> rCRhmmmms.rC#   
   > >>>> END QUOTE   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Okay, so how long until Ellison sues IDW over something about this?   
   > >>>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I read the original script about 35 years ago, and I don't remember   
   > >>> anything about a Bizarro World Enterprise.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The article asks the question, "And yet, now nearly 50 years later,   
   > >>> with numerous Treks behind us, the question still nags: would EllisonrCOs   
   > >>> original script for rCLThe City on the Edge of Forever,rCY have been   
   better   
   > >>> than what ended up on screen?"  I don't think so.  The story is not   
   > >>> about Beckwith, it's about Kirk and Edith Keeler, and Kirk's duty to   
   > >>> history and the future.  The story didn't require Beckwith or anybody   
   > >>> like Beckwith.  Accidentally overdosing McCoy gets things rolling quite   
   > >>> nicely.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Ellison's ending -- with Beckwith stuck in a time loop getting   
   > >>> annihilated every few seconds inside a nova -- is beyond melodramatic.   
   > >>> In the show as seen, Kirk's final line, "Let's get the hell out of   
   > >>> here," is powerful, especially in a day when saying "hell" on U.S. tv   
   > >>> was a very rare thing indeed.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> BTW the really confusing thing about City is just how history was   
   > >>> changed.  Everybody thinks McCoy saved Edith from getting run over by   
   > >>> that truck, and that wasn't the case.  The creepy little guy at the   
   > >>> rescue mission (his name in Ellison's script is Rodent) eventually   
   > >>> rapes and murders Edith.  He doesn't do so in the changed history   
   > >>> because he fiddled with McCoy's phaser and disintegrated himself.  The   
   > >>> significance of this was purposefully obscured, but that's why the   
   > >>> phaser scene is in there.  What's also not explained is why Kirk and   
   > >>> Spock simply didn't take Edith with them into the future, which would   
   > >>> have effectively "killed" her in 1930.  Neither story ever explains why   
   > >>> Edith's death was necessary.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Also, Clark Gable didn't make a movie until 1931.   
   > >>>   
   > >> Hasn't the Edith Keeler story line been mentioned here as a possible ST   
   > >> 13 re-do storyline??   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Not a chance.  Nobody's going to touch it.  They don't need the almost   
   > > certain litigation.  Even the Pocket Books novels and various comics   
   > > don't use or refer to City.   
   >    
   > You DO know that this whole thread is about a comic book adaptation of    
   > the original script, right?   
      
      
   Well, that's fairly condescending.   
      
   This is a conversation.  Right now I'm talking about the history of   
   City and Ellison's litigation concerning same, with specific reference   
   to a possible future film.  The IDW comic is not a future film.    
   (You'll note that someone has jokingly -- I hope -- wondered how long   
   it will be before Ellison sues IDW.)  No one is going to remake City   
   for the reasons I gave.  If you think otherwise, you're deluded.   
      
   BTW, to clarify, there are references to the Guardian of Forever in   
   about a dozen other Trekkish works (this is part of Ellison's 2009   
   lawsuit), but none that I can find to Edith Keeler or even to Kirk and   
   Spock's time-trip to 1930, which is what I had in mind.   
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