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   Message 20,077 of 20,898   
   Daniel to All   
   Re: IDW Does Harlan Ellison   
   15 Jul 14 21:04:08   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au   
   Subject: Re: IDW Does Harlan Ellison   
      
   On 15/07/2014 12:30 PM, A Friend wrote:   
   > In article , Jim G.   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> A classic revisited, just as Harlan envisioned it...   
   >>   
   >> The City that Never Sleeps or Goes Away: Harlan Ellison and Star Trek,   
   >> Again   
   >>   
   >> http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/07/the-city-that-never-sleeps-o   
   -goes-away-harla   
   >> n-ellison-and-star-trek-again   
   >> or http://preview.tinyurl.com/l4sppdm   
   >>   
   >> QUOTE   
   >> Adapted for the comics by IDWrCUs primary Trek writers Scott and David   
   >> Tipton, and with beautiful art by J.K. Woodward (who did slick work on   
   >> the Doctor Who/TNG crossover a few years ago) everything about this   
   >> release is totally legit. In the debut issue of this limited run (there   
   >> will be five in all) IDW Trek editor Chris Ryall writes fondly about how   
   >> this venture was his idea, and one that took some convincing of   
   >> everybody to go along with. In his words, over time rCRnosrC# turned into   
   >> rCRhmmmms.rC#   
   >> END QUOTE   
   >>   
   >> Okay, so how long until Ellison sues IDW over something about this?   
   >   
   >   
   > I read the original script about 35 years ago, and I don't remember   
   > anything about a Bizarro World Enterprise.   
   >   
   > The article asks the question, "And yet, now nearly 50 years later,   
   > with numerous Treks behind us, the question still nags: would EllisonrCOs   
   > original script for rCLThe City on the Edge of Forever,rCY have been better   
   > than what ended up on screen?"  I don't think so.  The story is not   
   > about Beckwith, it's about Kirk and Edith Keeler, and Kirk's duty to   
   > history and the future.  The story didn't require Beckwith or anybody   
   > like Beckwith.  Accidentally overdosing McCoy gets things rolling quite   
   > nicely.   
   >   
   > Ellison's ending -- with Beckwith stuck in a time loop getting   
   > annihilated every few seconds inside a nova -- is beyond melodramatic.   
   > In the show as seen, Kirk's final line, "Let's get the hell out of   
   > here," is powerful, especially in a day when saying "hell" on U.S. tv   
   > was a very rare thing indeed.   
   >   
   > BTW the really confusing thing about City is just how history was   
   > changed.  Everybody thinks McCoy saved Edith from getting run over by   
   > that truck, and that wasn't the case.  The creepy little guy at the   
   > rescue mission (his name in Ellison's script is Rodent) eventually   
   > rapes and murders Edith.  He doesn't do so in the changed history   
   > because he fiddled with McCoy's phaser and disintegrated himself.  The   
   > significance of this was purposefully obscured, but that's why the   
   > phaser scene is in there.  What's also not explained is why Kirk and   
   > Spock simply didn't take Edith with them into the future, which would   
   > have effectively "killed" her in 1930.  Neither story ever explains why   
   > Edith's death was necessary.   
   >   
   > Also, Clark Gable didn't make a movie until 1931.   
   >   
   Hasn't the Edith Keeler story line been mentioned here as a possible ST    
   13 re-do storyline??   
      
   Daniel   
      
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