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   Wiseguy to All   
   Re: Neener neener   
   27 Jun 14 13:41:24   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: epwise@yahoo.com   
   Subject: Re: Neener neener   
      
   ToolPackinMama  wrote in news:loiog5$els$1@dont-   
   email.me:   
      
   > On 6/26/2014 5:26 PM, Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:50:49 AM UTC-4, ToolPackinMama wrote:   
   >>> Yeah, so, anyway....   
   >>>   
   >>> Roddenberry has been quoted as officially affirming that "I    
   definitely   
   >>> designed it [Kirk/Spock] as a love relationship."  And when pressed   
   >>> about what type of love he said, "Deep love", and, "We never    
   suggested   
   >>> in the series - physical love between the two. But... we certainly    
   had   
   >>> the feeling that the affection was sufficient for that".   
   >>   
   >> Well, if Roddenberry commanded it, it will be made so.   
   >>   
   >> "Kirk, Spock... Engage."   
   >>   
   >    
   > Well, yes.  Nothing is in the show that is accidental.   
   >    
   > Roddenberry did nothing alone, he had a huge team of people who all    
   > worked on it.  Roddenberry was calling the shots, yes, but dozens of    
   > people, including the actors, were responsible for making the show    
   what    
   > it was/is.   
   >    
   > ===   
   >    
   > Here's a couple of interesting GR quotes:   
   >    
   > Gene Roddenberry: "I'm sorry I never had a homosexual relationship,"    
   he    
   > remarks pensively, out of the blue, one afternoon, "because I know    
   that    
   > there must be many joys and pleasures and degrees of closeness in    
   those    
   > relationships.  I think that I have in a way been cursed by having    
   > picked my particular time period and background and so on, because I    
   > have no doubt that I am capable of homosexualism.  As a matter of    
   fact,    
   > remind me, I'm in the midst of making a decision about homosexuality -    
   > male and female - and how we are going to treat it on Star Trek, the    
   > lovely ways in which we will treat it - without defying present    
   average    
   > conditions."   
   >    
   > [From Gene Roddenberry; The Last Conversation (by Yvonne Fern, 1994)]   
   >    
   > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520088425/107-6930241-6153356    
   > <-- buy it   
   >    
   > ====   
   >    
   > < over the world. How does it feel?   
   >    
   > GR -- I feel, as I wake up every morning, "I hope today isn't the day    
   > they find me out."   
   >    
   > AA -- Can you recall the first thing you thought about when you    
   > conceived STAR TREK?   
   >    
   > GR -- I guess it was the thought that under the terrible restrictions    
   of    
   > television it might be a way I could infiltrate my ideas, and that's    
   > what it's been all the time.>>   
   >    
   > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3253/regular/aa_roddenberry_gene.html   
      
   None of which has anything to do with Kirk and Spock having a gay    
   relationship.   
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