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   Wiseguy to All   
   Re: Neener neener   
   21 Jun 14 03:12:02   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: epwise@yahoo.com   
   Subject: Re: Neener neener   
      
   Will Dockery  wrote in   
   news:2db6d727-2705-4b5f-b844-48db3cb57179@googlegroups.com:    
      
   > On Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:09:59 PM UTC-4, Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Will Dockery schreef op 17-6-2014 02:05:   
   >> > Wiseguy wrote:   
   >>    
   >> >> He's asking if the whale plot was ever mentioned in Next   
   >> >> Generation or any other spinoffs since they took place after the   
   >> >> events of STIV.    
   >>    
   >> > Yeah... is that an easy question?   
   >>    
   >> I've seen almost all episodes. Except one of Enterprise. One were   
   >> Trip got cloned or something.   
   >>    
   >> But to my knowledge they never revisited the Whale story in any live    
   >> action show.   
   >>    
   >> There was a novel though.   
   >>    
   >> http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Probe_%28novel%29   
   >>    
   >> But since my memory might be flawed I might be mistaken about the   
   >> whales    
   >     
   >> or the probe not being mentioned after ST IV.   
   >    
   > Thanks, Wouter, I asked a self-proclaimed local Star Trek "expert" I   
   > know who was on the sidewalk downtown and he agrees with you on that,   
   > and went on to state that there never was a mention of the whales   
   > plotline in any of the other spin off series, and stated it like a   
   > fact so I reckon that's settled.    
   >    
   > Thanks for the info on the novel, although as far as I know none of   
   > those are ever considered canon by a Gene Roddenberry decree?    
   >    
   > Or are such decrees out the window in this J.J. Abrams era?   
   >    
      
   Logically speaking, novels aren't canon but anything filmed officially     
   by Paramount is.   
      
   So, TOS, TAS (yes), TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, All Movies are canon.   
      
   Internet episodes and novels, stories, etc. aren't.   
      
   Although anything written in novels and seen in internet episodes which    
   do not contradict what is shown in official productions may be    
   considered 'real' until they are contradicted by films etc.   
      
   Of course there are anal fans (aka fanatics) which think TAS isn't    
   canon, etc.   
      
   Odd that a series which uses logic has fans that have no knowledge of    
   the concept.   
      
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