From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: anim8rfsk@cox.net   
   Subject: Re: [OT] Awesome and funny Tesla car review (link)   
      
   In article <190520140917016975%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
    Your Name wrote:   
      
   > In article ,   
   > anim8rFSK wrote:   
   > > In article <180520141928110263%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > Your Name wrote:   
   > > > In article ,   
   > > > anim8rFSK wrote:   
   > > > > In article <180520141547076911%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > > > Your Name wrote:   
   > > > > > In article ,   
   > > > > > anim8rFSK wrote:   
   > > > > > > In article <180520141323062716%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > > > > > Your Name wrote:   
   > > > > > > > In article ,   
   > > > > > > > anim8rFSK wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > In article <180520141014073156%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > > > > > > > Your Name wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > In article , Jan Alter   
   > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Delightful.   
   > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > No more oil changes.   
   > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > I don't know about that review link, but electric cars still    
   > > > > > > > > > use   
   > > > > > > > > > oil to lubricate the various moving parts (wheel bearings,   
   > > etc.)    
   > > > > > > > > > as well as in the production of much of the world's   
   > > electricity.    
   > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > Most of it's sealed, but you've got battery pack coolant, brake   
   > > > > > > > > fluid,    
   > > > > > > > > gearbox oil, windshield wiper fluid, whatever it uses for    
   > > > > > > > > 'freon'    
   > > > > > > > > ...    
   > > > > > > > > you have to have $600 a year in service from Tesla where   
   > > > > > > > > presumably    
   > > > > > > > > they'll do all that; of course, there's not a Tesla dealer    
   > > > > > > > > within    
   > > > > > > > > the    
   > > > > > > > > car's driving range of me, so that would be a problem.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Anyone who believes electric cars are a panacea to the "oil    
   > > > > > > > > > crisis"    
   > > > > > > > > > or   
   > > > > > > > > > the "green revolution" is simply a blinkered moron.   
   > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > Yeah, they've bought into 'tailpipe emissions' and don't    
   > > > > > > > > realize    
   > > > > > > > > that    
   > > > > > > > > as    
   > > > > > > > > much or more pollution is being generated, just upstream.   
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > Also "downstream" in trying to get rid of all those extra toxic   
   > > > > > > > batteries. Plus, since the pile of batteries inside them will   
   > > > > > > > expensively need to be replaced fairly often, most people will   
   > > > > > > > simply   
   > > > > > > > upgrade to a newer car (one of the real reasons behind the   
   push),    
   > > > > > > > which   
   > > > > > > > means then also means extra material to be disposed of.   
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > Here in New Zealand, they've just started new electric trains in   
   > > > > > > > Auckland City (some parts, since not all the lines are    
   > > > > > > > electrified    
   > > > > > > > yet)   
   > > > > > > > and are boasting about how great they are ... except they have   
   to    
   > > > > > > > keep   
   > > > > > > > the old diesel trains around beacuse when the electricty goes    
   > > > > > > > down    
   > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > only way to then move the stupid new trains is by towing them    
   > > > > > > > with a   
   > > > > > > > real train. :-\   
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > LOL   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > It would be funny if it wasn't tax-payer money being wasted on buying   
   > > > > > something like 38 new trains to run on a railway system that only has   
   > > > > > two lines and a dead-end city centre station with only four    
   > > > > > platforms.   
   > > > > > Not to mention that they couldn't run the system they had properly.    
   > > > > > :-\   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > The morons in charge now want to waste piles more money digging an   
   > > > > > underground "City Loop" line (including buying and compensating   
   > > > > > affected building owners) that comes out of the dead-end station and   
   > > > > > goes up under the main city centre street to join in to the existing   
   > > > > > line back at the top ... this is after having had a free bus service   
   > > > > > running up and down the main street that was under-used.   
   > > > >    
   > > > > Yeah. And they try desperately to force you to take the bus to jury    
   > > > > duty,    
   > > >    
   > > > Ahh, Jury Duty. I did that once and it was a complete waste of a week.   
   > > > The next time I got my boss to write a letter saying I was   
   > > > indispensable and couldn't go, the next two times I was self-employed   
   > > > so couldn't go again.   
   > >    
   > > They don't accept those excuses any more here. The only job that counts    
   > > as 'indispensable' is - I swear - court clerk.   
   >    
   > Being self-employed means you are the only one who can do the work, so   
   > you are literally indispensible. :-) If they force you to do Jury   
   > Service, then it could well destroy your business.   
      
   Yes. I've had that discussion with them on many occasions. Basically    
   they blow a raspberry at you.   
   >    
   > Personally I think the jury system is idiotically stupid and plain   
   > wrong. Judges are trained and paid excessive amounts to be able to pass   
   > judgement (hence their job title), yet they farm it off to untrained   
   > members of the public who scum lawyers pick-and-choose to be on the   
   > jury. :-\   
      
   Yep. Well, except for the "judges are trained" part.   
      
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   Wait - are you saying that ClodReamer was wrong, or lying?   
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