From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: efor6920@bigpond.net.au   
   Subject: Re: buying Blish books as complete set?   
      
      
   "Anim8rFSK"  wrote in message    
   news:ANIM8Rfsk-F5EC55.07521511112009@news.dc1.easynews.com...   
   > In article ,   
   > "Fozzi"  wrote:   
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   >> "Brad Filippone"  wrote in message   
   >> news:0c973eaa-e83c-48b6-a804-b166d02166bc@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com...   
   >> On Oct 23, 3:27 pm, "Wouter Valentijn"  wrote:   
   >> > Brad Filippone wrote:   
   >> > > On Oct 22, 8:39 am, "Wouter Valentijn"  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> > >> 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x14: Goodbye Iowa'   
   >> >   
   >> > >> liam=mail   
   >> >   
   >> > > I used to have all the paperbacks in my youth--some of them original   
   >> > > editions. Then one day my Mom decided there were a bunch of things in   
   >> > > my room that I didn't need. Naturally, she didn't consult me.   
   >> >   
   >> > Ouch! :-(   
   >> >   
   >> Well, I'm sure a lot of people have similar stories.   
   >>   
   >> Brad   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Yep and in all cases the parents actions constitue theft or criminal    
   >> damage   
   >> or both, just beacause they are your parents doesnt give them the right    
   >> to   
   >> make decisions about your property, just because they paid for it does    
   >> not   
   >> mean they own it, like all gifts they become the property of the    
   >> recipient   
   >> the moment they are given.   
   >>   
   >> Cheers   
   >> Fozzi   
   >   
   > And if you left it in their house you basically abandoned it.  Yes,   
   > parents should ASK before throwing out your stuff, but it doesn't rise   
   > to the level of theft or criminal damage.  I lost hundreds of thousands   
   > of dollars worth of old Marvel comics by not taking them with me, and   
   > it's nobody's fault but my own.   
   >   
      
   It may surprise you that I dont entirely disagree with your statement, but    
   you are talking about personal responsibility I am talking about legal    
   positions, just because something has been left on your property does not    
   mean it is yours to do with as you please, in practice possesion is 9/10 of    
   the law only when what you possess is either stolen or contraband in which    
   case it is your responsibility to show why you are not responsible for it.    
   If the item on your property is not your property you are required to make    
   all *reasonable* efforts to contact the person who does own that property    
   and give them notice that you intend to dispose of that item, and then you    
   are required to give them reasonable opportunity to collect it. If you give    
   these reasonables (notification and opportunity) then you have covered your    
   arse in the case of a  suit (NB you may still be required to compensate    
   directly for the lost item but there is unlikely to be any punitive element    
   to the judgement), if you cant point to where you have given these    
   reasonables and they take exception and they hire even a half decent lawyer    
   then your arse is essentially toast and, going back to your point about    
   personal responsibility, the only person you can blame is yourself   
      
   cheers   
   Fozzi    
      
      
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