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|    Ron to All    |
|    Re: A Question For Hardcore Trekkies--    |
|    11 Nov 09 05:19:50    |
      From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos       From Address: ryon@dslnorthwest.net       Subject: Re: A Question For Hardcore Trekkies--                            Steven L. wrote:       > Ron wrote:       > >       > > Steven L. wrote:       > >> Ron wrote:       > >>> I'm a bit curious about something--       > >>>       > >>> The existing plans for a vulcan harp/lyrette are badly flawed; pretty       > >>> pathetic at best. But it took me a while because basically I'm rather       > >>> stupid, to realize that there are [at least] three designs for the       > >>> Ka'athyra: the harp Uhura has in Conscience of the King has a wider       > >>> body and a shorter neck, the one Spock has in The Way to Eden has a       > >>> narower body and a long neck (about 25"), and the harp designer Wah       > >>> Chang made for his wife (seen in the Star Trek Sketchbook) has a very       > >>> wide body with a somewhat long neck.       > >>>       > >>> The wide-body harp has been the one most often made, probably because       > >>> that, more or less, has plans and is in the Star Trek Tech Manual.       > >>> Also back in the day, Paramount had two dozen of those made by a       > >>> commercial guitar company; if you can find any of those rarities, they       > >>> are worth a couple of grand these days.       > >>>       > >>>       > >>> I never really did like the COTK version of the harp, but after a       > >>> *lot* of hard work and design effort, I finally got the Way To Eden       > >>> version all sussed out. Made mostly out of wallnut and with       > >>> electronics to provide sustain and distortion effects, it cost me at       > >>> least six hundred dollars to make; a decade or so ago, it wouldn't       > >>> have even been half that much but as the song says, those days are       > >>> gone forever-- over a long time ago.       > >>>       > >>> Having done all the work, I might make and sell one or two some time.       > >>> Would a Trekkie interested in music be willing to pay from six to       > >>> eight hundred for a harp that's as close to the Way To Eden version--       > >>> even including the small speaker on the back-- as one can possibly       > >>> be? :-)       > >> Here's one way to find out:       > >>       > >> Try selling some on EBay.       > >       > > If nothing, I learned a gereat lesson from Star Fortress: they       > > advertise Vulcan harps but don't tell you that they don't have any off-       > > the-shelf harps made-- they are a custom item. One could wait up to       > > nine months to get an order...       > >       > > Now, if I was gonna sell one or two on ebay, I want to have one or two       > > already made-- just good business practices. But conversely, I'm not       > > going to spend over a grand to make two harps on the chance that they       > > will sell for more than what it costs me to make them. In the past,       > > the Paramount-made harps have gone for over $2,000 but those were       > > numbered, specialties, that will never be seen again; collectors       > > items.       >       > You're not seriously suggesting that someone should pay you *in advance*       > to construct one of these things?       >       > No offense, but how would one know if you really intend to build it, or       > if this is just some kind of Internet scam in which you'll take the       > person's money and run?              Oy! I take it you don't understand some of the basics of marketing       101... No, I don't offer to sell things I don't have-- but, before I       spend time and money (lots of money) making a "product" that may or       may not sell, I test the waters so to speak to see if there is a       potential market, then if so, make a couple of other harps and sell       them. Simple honest business.              Even with a viral campaign (word of mouth) it wouldn't be too hard to       drum up some interest since at least two Vulcan harps have sold on       ebay for over $2,000 each. But most luthiers-- instrument makers--       who have made various versions of the harp (and there are many)       usually make just one for themselves since making the harps is a time       intensive activity and the cost of wood these days is-- no pun       intended-- just about astronomical. Twenty or thirty years ago when       the original instruments were made, it wouldn't have cost as much as a       fifth of what wood costs today. You'd think it was being shipped all       the way from Vulcan.... ;-)              Ron       --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux NewsLink 1.92-mlp        * Origin: http://groups.google.com (1:2320/105.97)       --- SBBSecho 2.12-Linux        * Origin: telnet & http://cco.ath.cx - Dial-Up: 502-875-8938 (1:2320/105.1)    |
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