From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: not@chance.dude
Subject: Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds
Brad Filippone wrote:
> On Dec 5, 11:14 am, Anim8rFSK wrote:
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>> Wickeddoll wrote:
>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Steven L." wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the fame has just gone to their heads. They think Shatner
>>>>>>>>>>>>> upstaged them? What kind of "stage" would they have had without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek?
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the thing. There are almost no stories of him treating
them
>>>>>>>>>>>> badly; at worst, he was apparently indifferent. It's like they
>>>>>>>>>>>> blurred the line between work friends and real life friends. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure there are incidents where he took away somebody's lines;
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's how these things work. It's not like he ever got somebody
>>>>>>>>>>>> fired; hell, they were all there to the end, even in the one he
>>>>>>>>>>>> directed.
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it's because they had hoped to focus on each of the minor
>>>>>>>>>>> actors in a rotating way, similar to the "centric" episodes on
>>>>>>>>>>> today's "Lost."
>>>>>>>>>>> You saw some of that in season 1: "Charlie X" focused on Yeoman
>>>>>>>>>>> Rand, for example. And "Naked Time" had a big part for Sulu.
>>>>>>>>>>> But Shatner had written memos to the producers "reminding" them
that
>>>>>>>>>>> the show "has to center around Captain Kirk and his decisions."
>>>>>>>>>>> And as the series continued, the show focused more and more on the
>>>>>>>>>>> Kirk-Spock-McCoy troika.
>>>>>>>>>> OK that's a reasonable gripe, but it's *way* in the past - can't be
>>>>>>>>>> changed, certainly not by Shatner.
>>>>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>>>> And it's how 1960s TV was handled, anyway. When was the last time
you
>>>>>>>>> saw a BONANZA episode featuring Hop-Sing? Okay, there was one HAVE
>>>>>>>>> GUN WILL TRAVEL where Paladin teamed up with Hey-Boy.
>>>>>>>> And it got corrected in the movies to some degree.
>>>>>>>> Nichelle Nichols had some good moments in ST III: TSFS.
>>>>>>> They all did - I think that's because of Nimoy being the director.
>>>>>>>> James Doohan had good moments in ST IV: TVH.
>>>>>>>> George Takei had a *major* role as the Excelsior captain in ST VI: The
>>>>>>>> Undiscovered Country.
>>>>>>> I don't think they're talking about the movies - seems to be the show.
>>>>>>> I guess they think they'd be bigger stars *now* if they had more face
>>>>>>> time *then* but I say any of the original cast of TOS are much bigger
>>>>>>> stars than they would have been if they had any other roles. Honestly,
>>>>>>> I can't imagine any of the secondary cast really breaking out, except
>>>>>>> Takei and maybe Koenig.
>>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>> KOENIG?????
>>>>>> Have you ever seen something that featured him, like Moontrap? He's one
>>>>>> of the singulary least talented people in show business.
>>>>>> If he hadn't stumbled into Star Trek, he'd be asking if you wanted fries
>>>>>> with that -- if he was lucky.
>>>>> I thought he was great as the loathsome Mr. Bester in B5
>>>>> Natalie
>>>> I agree, he fit well into that one part, but only that one part.
>>> You didn't like his Chekov? I always thought he was sweetly naive.
>>> Natalie
>> No. I thought Chekov was an annoying twit, and they should have space
>> him. Chekov was only good when being tortured or burned or maimed in
>> some way. Substituting "W" for "R" and "L" isn't a Russian accent, it's
>> an Elmer Fudd speech impediment.
>>
> Ah, but how do we know that isn't what Russian accents sound like in
> the 23rd century? :)
>
> Brad
LOL
Natalie
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