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   Wickeddoll to All   
   Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
   05 Dec 09 11:28:39   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: not@chance.dude   
   Subject: Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
      
   Anim8rFSK wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  "Steven L." wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the fame has just gone to their heads.  They think Shatner    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> upstaged them?  What kind of "stage" would they have had without    
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> That's the thing.  There are almost no stories of him treating   
   them    
   >>>>>>>>>>> badly; at worst, he was apparently indifferent.  It's like they    
   >>>>>>>>>>> blurred the line between work friends and real life friends.  I'm    
   >>>>>>>>>>> sure there are incidents where he took away somebody's lines;    
   >>>>>>>>>>> that's how these things work.  It's not like he ever got somebody    
   >>>>>>>>>>> fired; hell, they were all there to the end, even in the one he    
   >>>>>>>>>>> directed.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it's because they had hoped to focus on each of the minor    
   >>>>>>>>>> actors in a rotating way, similar to the "centric" episodes on    
   >>>>>>>>>> today's "Lost."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You saw some of that in season 1:  "Charlie X" focused on Yeoman    
   >>>>>>>>>> Rand, for example.  And "Naked Time" had a big part for Sulu.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> But Shatner had written memos to the producers "reminding" them   
   that    
   >>>>>>>>>> the show "has to center around Captain Kirk and his decisions."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And as the series continued, the show focused more and more on the    
   >>>>>>>>>> Kirk-Spock-McCoy troika.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> OK that's a reasonable gripe, but it's *way* in the past - can't be    
   >>>>>>>>> changed, certainly not by Shatner.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Natalie   
   >>>>>>>> And it's how 1960s TV was handled, anyway.  When was the last time   
   you    
   >>>>>>>> saw a BONANZA episode featuring Hop-Sing?  Okay, there was one HAVE    
   >>>>>>>> GUN WILL TRAVEL where Paladin teamed up with Hey-Boy.   
   >>>>>>> And it got corrected in the movies to some degree.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Nichelle Nichols had some good moments in ST III: TSFS.   
   >>>>>> They all did - I think that's because of Nimoy being the director.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> James Doohan had good moments in ST IV: TVH.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> George Takei had a *major* role as the Excelsior captain in ST VI: The    
   >>>>>>> Undiscovered Country.   
   >>>>>> I don't think they're talking about the movies - seems to be the show.    
   >>>>>> I guess they think they'd be bigger stars *now* if they had more face    
   >>>>>> time *then* but I say any of the original cast of TOS are much bigger    
   >>>>>> stars than they would have been if they had any other roles.  Honestly,    
   >>>>>> I can't imagine any of the secondary cast really breaking out, except    
   >>>>>> Takei and maybe Koenig.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Natalie   
   >>>>> KOENIG?????   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Have you ever seen something that featured him, like Moontrap?  He's one    
   >>>>> of the singulary least talented people in show business.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If he hadn't stumbled into Star Trek, he'd be asking if you wanted fries    
   >>>>> with that -- if he was lucky.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> I thought he was great as the loathsome Mr. Bester in B5   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Natalie   
   >>> I agree, he fit well into that one part, but only that one part.   
   >>>   
   >> You didn't like his Chekov?  I always thought he was sweetly naive.   
   >>   
   >> Natalie   
   >    
   > No.  I thought Chekov was an annoying twit, and they should have space    
   > him.  Chekov was only good when being tortured or burned or maimed in    
   > some way.  Substituting "W" for "R" and "L" isn't a Russian accent, it's    
   > an Elmer Fudd speech impediment.   
   >    
   LOL I didn't think he was that bad.   
      
   But did you hear about people saying the new Chekov (Anton) sounded phony!   
      
   The guy really *is* Russian! LOL   
      
   Natalie   
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