From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: Brad_Filippone@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds
On Dec 5, 11:14aam, Anim8rFSK wrote:
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> aWickeddoll wrote:
> > Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> a"Steven L." wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the fame has just gone to their heads. aThey think Shatner
> > >>>>>>>>>> upstaged them? aWhat kind of "stage" would they have had without
> > >>>>>>>>>> Star Trek?
> > >>>>>>>>> That's the thing. aThere are almost no stories of him treating
them
> > >>>>>>>>> badly; at worst, he was apparently indifferent. aIt's like they
> > >>>>>>>>> blurred the line between work friends and real life friends. aI'm
> > >>>>>>>>> sure there are incidents where he took away somebody's lines;
> > >>>>>>>>> that's how these things work. aIt's not like he ever got somebody
> > >>>>>>>>> fired; hell, they were all there to the end, even in the one he
> > >>>>>>>>> directed.
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps it's because they had hoped to focus on each of the minor
> > >>>>>>>> actors in a rotating way, similar to the "centric" episodes on
> > >>>>>>>> today's "Lost."
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> > >>>>>>>> You saw some of that in season 1: a"Charlie X" focused on Yeoman
> > >>>>>>>> Rand, for example. aAnd "Naked Time" had a big part for Sulu.
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> > >>>>>>>> But Shatner had written memos to the producers "reminding" them
that
> > >>>>>>>> the show "has to center around Captain Kirk and his decisions."
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> > >>>>>>>> And as the series continued, the show focused more and more on the
> > >>>>>>>> Kirk-Spock-McCoy troika.
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> > >>>>>>> OK that's a reasonable gripe, but it's *way* in the past - can't be
> > >>>>>>> changed, certainly not by Shatner.
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> > >>>>>>> Natalie
> > >>>>>> And it's how 1960s TV was handled, anyway. aWhen was the last time
you
> > >>>>>> saw a BONANZA episode featuring Hop-Sing? aOkay, there was one HAVE
> > >>>>>> GUN WILL TRAVEL where Paladin teamed up with Hey-Boy.
> > >>>>> And it got corrected in the movies to some degree.
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> > >>>>> Nichelle Nichols had some good moments in ST III: TSFS.
> > >>>> They all did - I think that's because of Nimoy being the director.
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> > >>>>> James Doohan had good moments in ST IV: TVH.
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> > >>>>> George Takei had a *major* role as the Excelsior captain in ST VI:
The
> > >>>>> Undiscovered Country.
> > >>>> I don't think they're talking about the movies - seems to be the show.
> > >>>> I guess they think they'd be bigger stars *now* if they had more face
> > >>>> time *then* but I say any of the original cast of TOS are much bigger
> > >>>> stars than they would have been if they had any other roles.
aHonestly,
> > >>>> I can't imagine any of the secondary cast really breaking out, except
> > >>>> Takei and maybe Koenig.
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> > >>>> Natalie
> > >>> KOENIG?????
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> > >>> Have you ever seen something that featured him, like Moontrap? aHe's
one
> > >>> of the singulary least talented people in show business.
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> > >>> If he hadn't stumbled into Star Trek, he'd be asking if you wanted
fries
> > >>> with that -- if he was lucky.
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> > >> I thought he was great as the loathsome Mr. Bester in B5
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> > >> Natalie
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> > > I agree, he fit well into that one part, but only that one part.
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> > You didn't like his Chekov? aI always thought he was sweetly naive.
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> > Natalie
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> No. aI thought Chekov was an annoying twit, and they should have space
> him. aChekov was only good when being tortured or burned or maimed in
> some way. aSubstituting "W" for "R" and "L" isn't a Russian accent, it's
> an Elmer Fudd speech impediment.
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Ah, but how do we know that isn't what Russian accents sound like in
the 23rd century? :)
Brad
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