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   Wickeddoll to All   
   Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
   04 Dec 09 20:27:52   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: not@chance.dude   
   Subject: Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
      
   Anim8rFSK wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>  "Steven L." wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the fame has just gone to their heads.  They think Shatner    
   >>>>>>>>>> upstaged them?  What kind of "stage" would they have had without    
   >>>>>>>>>> Star Trek?   
   >>>>>>>>> That's the thing.  There are almost no stories of him treating them    
   >>>>>>>>> badly; at worst, he was apparently indifferent.  It's like they    
   >>>>>>>>> blurred the line between work friends and real life friends.  I'm    
   >>>>>>>>> sure there are incidents where he took away somebody's lines;    
   >>>>>>>>> that's how these things work.  It's not like he ever got somebody    
   >>>>>>>>> fired; hell, they were all there to the end, even in the one he    
   >>>>>>>>> directed.   
   >>>>>>>> Perhaps it's because they had hoped to focus on each of the minor    
   >>>>>>>> actors in a rotating way, similar to the "centric" episodes on    
   >>>>>>>> today's "Lost."   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You saw some of that in season 1:  "Charlie X" focused on Yeoman    
   >>>>>>>> Rand, for example.  And "Naked Time" had a big part for Sulu.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> But Shatner had written memos to the producers "reminding" them that    
   >>>>>>>> the show "has to center around Captain Kirk and his decisions."   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And as the series continued, the show focused more and more on the    
   >>>>>>>> Kirk-Spock-McCoy troika.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> OK that's a reasonable gripe, but it's *way* in the past - can't be    
   >>>>>>> changed, certainly not by Shatner.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Natalie   
   >>>>>> And it's how 1960s TV was handled, anyway.  When was the last time you    
   >>>>>> saw a BONANZA episode featuring Hop-Sing?  Okay, there was one HAVE    
   >>>>>> GUN WILL TRAVEL where Paladin teamed up with Hey-Boy.   
   >>>>> And it got corrected in the movies to some degree.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Nichelle Nichols had some good moments in ST III: TSFS.   
   >>>> They all did - I think that's because of Nimoy being the director.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> James Doohan had good moments in ST IV: TVH.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> George Takei had a *major* role as the Excelsior captain in ST VI: The    
   >>>>> Undiscovered Country.   
   >>>> I don't think they're talking about the movies - seems to be the show.    
   >>>> I guess they think they'd be bigger stars *now* if they had more face    
   >>>> time *then* but I say any of the original cast of TOS are much bigger    
   >>>> stars than they would have been if they had any other roles.  Honestly,    
   >>>> I can't imagine any of the secondary cast really breaking out, except    
   >>>> Takei and maybe Koenig.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Natalie   
   >>> KOENIG?????   
   >>>   
   >>> Have you ever seen something that featured him, like Moontrap?  He's one    
   >>> of the singulary least talented people in show business.   
   >>>   
   >>> If he hadn't stumbled into Star Trek, he'd be asking if you wanted fries    
   >>> with that -- if he was lucky.   
   >>>   
   >> I thought he was great as the loathsome Mr. Bester in B5   
   >>   
   >> Natalie   
   >    
   > I agree, he fit well into that one part, but only that one part.   
   >    
      
   You didn't like his Chekov?  I always thought he was sweetly naive.   
      
   Natalie   
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