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   Wickeddoll to All   
   Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
   04 Dec 09 18:01:43   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: not@chance.dude   
   Subject: Re: Shatner sick of Star Trek feuds   
      
   Anim8rFSK wrote:   
   >  Wickeddoll wrote:   
   >>>>>>>  "Steven L." wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Maybe the fame has just gone to their heads.  They think Shatner    
   >>>>>>>> upstaged them?  What kind of "stage" would they have had without    
   >>>>>>>> Star Trek?   
   >>>>>>> That's the thing.  There are almost no stories of him treating them    
   >>>>>>> badly; at worst, he was apparently indifferent.  It's like they    
   >>>>>>> blurred the line between work friends and real life friends.  I'm    
   >>>>>>> sure there are incidents where he took away somebody's lines;    
   >>>>>>> that's how these things work.  It's not like he ever got somebody    
   >>>>>>> fired; hell, they were all there to the end, even in the one he    
   >>>>>>> directed.   
   >>>>>> Perhaps it's because they had hoped to focus on each of the minor    
   >>>>>> actors in a rotating way, similar to the "centric" episodes on    
   >>>>>> today's "Lost."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You saw some of that in season 1:  "Charlie X" focused on Yeoman    
   >>>>>> Rand, for example.  And "Naked Time" had a big part for Sulu.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But Shatner had written memos to the producers "reminding" them that    
   >>>>>> the show "has to center around Captain Kirk and his decisions."   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And as the series continued, the show focused more and more on the    
   >>>>>> Kirk-Spock-McCoy troika.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> OK that's a reasonable gripe, but it's *way* in the past - can't be    
   >>>>> changed, certainly not by Shatner.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Natalie   
   >>>> And it's how 1960s TV was handled, anyway.  When was the last time you    
   >>>> saw a BONANZA episode featuring Hop-Sing?  Okay, there was one HAVE    
   >>>> GUN WILL TRAVEL where Paladin teamed up with Hey-Boy.   
   >>> And it got corrected in the movies to some degree.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nichelle Nichols had some good moments in ST III: TSFS.   
   >> They all did - I think that's because of Nimoy being the director.   
   >>   
   >>> James Doohan had good moments in ST IV: TVH.   
   >>>   
   >>> George Takei had a *major* role as the Excelsior captain in ST VI: The    
   >>> Undiscovered Country.   
   >> I don't think they're talking about the movies - seems to be the show.    
   >> I guess they think they'd be bigger stars *now* if they had more face    
   >> time *then* but I say any of the original cast of TOS are much bigger    
   >> stars than they would have been if they had any other roles.  Honestly,    
   >> I can't imagine any of the secondary cast really breaking out, except    
   >> Takei and maybe Koenig.   
   >>   
   >> Natalie   
   >    
   > KOENIG?????   
   >    
   > Have you ever seen something that featured him, like Moontrap?  He's one    
   > of the singulary least talented people in show business.   
   >    
   > If he hadn't stumbled into Star Trek, he'd be asking if you wanted fries    
   > with that -- if he was lucky.   
   >    
      
   I thought he was great as the loathsome Mr. Bester in B5   
      
   Natalie   
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