From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
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   Subject: Re: The Case For Star Trek Winning Best Picture (was Re: Star Trek   
   Makes 2009 National Board of Review Top 10 Films List)   
      
   In article    
   <7179f4fa-9e45-4556-9934-f4e6384164cb@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,   
    Dan Dassow  wrote:   
      
   > On Dec 13, 4:29apm, Anim8rFSK  wrote:   
   > > In article   
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   > > ar...@aol.com wrote:   
   > > > > > Consider that Star Trek is on a par with Star Wars, an   
   > > > > > iconic American property that even older Academy voters   
   > > > > > can appreciate. a   
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   > > > > Which isn't the same as saying Star Trek 2009 is on par with Star Wars   
   > > > > 1977. Not even close. Not the same solar system.   
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   > > > And even just from a technical standpoint, Star Wars stood alone in   
   > > > 1977 simply by the fact that the means to produce it had to be drawn   
   > > > up from scratch. aThe talent and production pipelines to make such a   
   > > > film today are all over Hollywood (and the world, i.e. Weta in NZ) and   
   > > > we see the results on a weekly basis, but back then the studios had   
   > > > disbanded their effects units, farming out what little effects they   
   > > > needed to the few model or optical houses in existence. aThe   
   > > > requirements of Star Wars required the creation of Industrial Light   
   > > > and Magic, or it never would have been possible. aCE3K was another   
   > > > notable effects movie from 1977 (yet less over-the-top), but that's   
   > > > about it. aStar Wars being unique and unusual (and a great time to   
   > > > boot) got it Oscar's attention.   
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   > > And look what won the Oscar just the year before: aLogan's Run, with   
   > > it's pathetic tiny out of focus models. aStar Wars took everything to a   
   > > whole new level.   
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   > > > (The only studio that seemed to still have the capability to do an   
   > > > entire effects-laden production in-house was Disney with "The Black   
   > > > Hole." aPerhaps their animated films required an active technical   
   > > > department so they never shut it down.)   
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   > > > Rik   
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   > > But the FX in "The Black Hole" are *terrible*   
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   > I would have used the words pathetic and laughable, but the point is   
   > the same.   
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   > Dan Dassow   
      
   I reserve "pathetic and laughable" for Yvette with her head wrapped in    
   tinfoil.  :)   
      
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