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   Message 19,060 of 20,898   
   Anim8rFSK to All   
   Re: The Case For Star Trek Winning Best    
   13 Dec 09 15:29:42   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net   
   Subject: Re: The Case For Star Trek Winning Best Picture (was Re: Star Trek   
   Makes 2009 National Board of Review Top 10 Films List)   
      
   In article    
   ,   
    rikp@aol.com wrote:   
      
   > > > Consider that Star Trek is on a par with Star Wars, an   
   > > > iconic American property that even older Academy voters   
   > > > can appreciate. a   
   > >   
   > > Which isn't the same as saying Star Trek 2009 is on par with Star Wars   
   > > 1977. Not even close. Not the same solar system.   
   >    
   > And even just from a technical standpoint, Star Wars stood alone in   
   > 1977 simply by the fact that the means to produce it had to be drawn   
   > up from scratch.  The talent and production pipelines to make such a   
   > film today are all over Hollywood (and the world, i.e. Weta in NZ) and   
   > we see the results on a weekly basis, but back then the studios had   
   > disbanded their effects units, farming out what little effects they   
   > needed to the few model or optical houses in existence.  The   
   > requirements of Star Wars required the creation of Industrial Light   
   > and Magic, or it never would have been possible.  CE3K was another   
   > notable effects movie from 1977 (yet less over-the-top), but that's   
   > about it.  Star Wars being unique and unusual (and a great time to   
   > boot) got it Oscar's attention.   
      
   And look what won the Oscar just the year before:  Logan's Run, with    
   it's pathetic tiny out of focus models.  Star Wars took everything to a    
   whole new level.   
   >    
   > (The only studio that seemed to still have the capability to do an   
   > entire effects-laden production in-house was Disney with "The Black   
   > Hole."  Perhaps their animated films required an active technical   
   > department so they never shut it down.)   
   >    
   > Rik   
      
   But the FX in "The Black Hole" are *terrible*   
      
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