From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: santolina@juno.com
Subject: Re: Star Trek: Am I the Only One?
On Dec 10, 4:57apm, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 8:02 am, Merrick Baldelli wrote:
> >> On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:05:50 -0800 (PST), Santolina chamaecyparissus
>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Except, none of them act any differently from the old characters.
> >>> Well, except Uhura, who has a huge schoolgirl crush on Spock.
> >>> Fascinating.
> >> a a a a Or added phobias to McCoy that he didn't have.
>
> > Who the fuck cares about trivial shit like that? aDid the new Bones
> > act so substantially like the old Bones that everybody recognized him
> > as Bones, yes or no?
>
> No.
>
Seriously? If they'd bleeped the audio where he introduces himself
but left the rest of the performance intact you'd have had no idea
what character that was? Feel free to expound on that.
> >> aOr the fact
> >> that Montgomery Scott was well known for knowing Enterprise inside and
> >> out,
>
> > Er, a dozen years or more in the future, yeah. aSomebody'd not paying
> > attention and it's not me.
>
> > How do you think Scotty should be depicted a dozen or so years before
> > TOS times? aMaybe jovial, clever, and with a quaint accent? aDING DING
> > DING DING...... Scotty was Scotty. aThey changed nothing about him,
> > just put him in a different setting and made him a bit sillier as
> > would befit a much younger man.
>
> You appear to be assuming that the end of the 2009 movie does not
> correspond to the beginning of the five year mission.
I assume only the facts in evidence. The timeline of ST09 corresponds
roughly to Capt. Pike's mission to Talos IV, does it not? If they
move forward with a new movie they're free to populate the fleet's
flagship with a bunch of 20 year olds, if that's what their teenage
audience demands. Personally, I would hope for something less stupid
than that, but I don't get a vote.
>aI would assume
> the opposite.
>
>
>
> >> and yet everything he was doing since boarding the ship even
> >> surprised him. aOr that Sulu was pretty incompetent for a helmsman and
> >> had issues getting out of space dock... a
>
> > My, what insightful analysis. How do you think Sulu should be depicted
> > a dozen years or so before his age of competency? aActually, the new
> > Sulu is almost entirely devoid of personality whatsoever, easily the
> > most forgettable of the core characters.
>
> See above.
>
Feel free to expound upon anything that made you say, "my god, that's
so not Sulu."
>
>
> >> a a a a Maybe you need to pay some more attention.
>
> > Funny. aAll the characters are unchanged in any substantial way from
> > their old depictions. aKirk is just a more exaggerated version of
> > Kirk, Spock is Spock, Bones is Bones (but with an extra phobia!!!),
> > Scotty and Chekov are younger and sillier versions of themselves, Sulu
> > is Sulu except with even less personality. aThe only exception is
> > Uhura, who seems less interested in her career than Spock's potent
> > blend of Vulcan/Human musk.
>
> And yet many of us disagree with "the characters are all the same, just
> younger", seeing the 2009 movie versions as having entirely different
> personalities.
>
Feel free to expound upon that.
> > If changing the timeline only changes a character in trivial ways then
> > what was the point of changing the timeline? aMaybe they'll get around
> > to telling us in the next movie, if they can squeeze a little
> > exposition in between all the fucking explosions.
>
> I doubt it.
>
Me too.
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