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   Message 18,951 of 20,898   
   Steven L. to All   
   Re: Star Trek: Am I the Only One?   
   09 Dec 09 20:34:51   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: sdlitvin@earthlink.net   
   Subject: Re: Star Trek: Am I the Only One?   
      
   On 12/9/2009 3:07 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > "Smokie Darling (Annie)"  wrote in message   
   > news:08e41785-e42f-4238-865c-31efceb6d2af@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com...   
   >> On Dec 9, 9:33 am, trag  wrote:   
   >>> On Dec 9, 9:56 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)"   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I agree with Ted here. The whole Soran plot was just a device   
   >>>> (mcguffin, if I may), the real plot was reintroducing all the   
   >>>> characters that most ST viewers "know", and the new interactions based   
   >>>> on a certain event that occurred.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's not the Kirk that I "know".   
   >>   
   >> Which is why I put it in quotes.  They have the same names, but   
   >> because of a certain event, they have changed (some a little, some a   
   >> lot).   
   >   
   > "Certain events"   
   > Translation: Nobody in Hollyweird knows (nor cares) how to make real Star   
   > Trek any more.   
      
   It seemed like real Star Trek to me.   
      
   Kirk was arrogant but dedicated and resourceful,   
   Spock was struggling with his human half (and the bias of other Vulcans    
   against it), his relationships with Amanda and Sarek were as we knew them,   
   McCoy was gruff but decent.   
      
   We seem to have two sets of contradictory criticisms here:   
      
   The OP started out by saying that the movie was too derivative of years    
   and years of past Trek plots,   
      
   but now you're saying that the movie wasn't real Star Trek.   
      
   That's a contradiction.   
      
   I happen to agree with the first poster, but I cut Abrams some slack    
   because his "five year mission" was to reboot the Trek franchise with a    
   new cast of actors, but not throw away the key relationships among the    
   crew or their key motivations. So he had to essentially revisit each one    
   separately, rushing by at breakneck speed:  Young Kirk was reckless but    
   matured later, young Spock was tormented by his classmates (that scene    
   was lifted out of TAS "Yesteryear"), young Spock loved his mom Amanda,    
   Sarek rationalized marrying Amanda as "logical", on and on.   
      
      
      
      
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