From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: ryon@dslnorthwest.net   
   Subject: Re: So I Wasn't Surprised--   
      
      
   Marcovaldo wrote:   
   > On Dec 24, 5:40aam, Ron  wrote:   
   > > AMUN wrote:   
   > > > Wickeddoll wrote:   
   > > > > Ron wrote:   
   > > > >> I said I was going to see the movie and finally I did. I bought the   
   > > > >> DVD and watched it a couple of times; once with family members who are   
   > > > >> usually fond of Star Trek. I had expected to be disappointed and I   
   > > > >> have to say that yeah, I was. From the over-stuffed nacelles, the   
   > > > >> funky phaser pistols, to the bland plot-- the new Star Trek movie   
   > > > >> reminded me of those 60s sci-fi films out of Italy and Japan.   
   > >   
   > > > >> Okay, so Roddenberry said he had hoped that somebody would do a   
   > > > >> prequel, but I think in this case the poor man is spinning in his   
   > > > >> grave. I wanted it to be good-- hey, I wanted Enterprise to be good,   
   > > > >> too-- but oy! This was just mediocre pap. So 90 plus per cent liked   
   > > > >> this huh? Hmmm, I guess that only goes to prove that majority rule is   
   > > > >> often horribly wrong. As the song says, when you listen to fools the   
   > > > >> mob rules. aPity. a ;-)   
   > >   
   > > > >> Ron   
   > >   
   > > > > So you've declared your opinion right, and 90% of others wrong.   
   > >   
   > > > > Think pretty highly of yourself, huh?   
   > >   
   > > > > Natalie   
   > >   
   > > > I'm just wondering where the figure of 90% liked it came from.   
   > > > Other than 3 people on here, aeveryone I talked to that saw it, said it   
   > > > stunk.   
   > >   
   > > Actually, I was being conservative just out of spite.  The real   
   > > figure according to Wikipedia (and which somebody else here threw in   
   > > my face some while back) was actually 95 per cent. However-- we aren't   
   > > dealing with the real world, they were talking about one of the two   
   > > groups that critique movies, Rotten Tomatoes. Apparently most of the   
   > > yahoos there loved the film-- God only knows why. If nothing else, I   
   > > would have thought those silly spinning spaceships would have been   
   > > enough to turn everyone off in the first fifteen minutes. But, hey;   
   > > what the hell do I know? a:-)   
   > >   
   > > Ron- Hide quoted text -   
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   > Well, I enjoyed it, so I guess I'm a yahool Hot damn! I've been   
   > promoted!   
   I wouldn't call it "good;" I only thought it was okay. There were a   
   few good moments where I actually laughed, and I really liked the   
   Captain Pike character,  but mostly I was constantly irritated by   
   those glaring white sets, the interiors of the starships that with all   
   those pipes and things looked more like a tour through a brewery   
   rather than spaceships, and the goofy rotating shuttles and torpedoes.   
   And if I didn't say it before, the nacelles on the ships were the   
   worst things I have ever seen anywhere! Who designed the Kelvin, Rube   
   Goldberg?   
   On the DVD somebody said that the problem with the early TOS was that   
   there wasn't enough money to do it right, but that wasn't true: more   
   money doesn't guarantee quality, it only means that if you fuck up   
   with lousy set designs and silly ideas, you can really badly fuck up   
   with a lot more money to do it with. I can't remember any movie that   
   had worse execution in my entire lifetime of movie going...   
   Ron   
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