From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: macthevorlon@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Most vile STAR TREK characters
David Johnston wrote:
> On Aug 21, 10:32 am, Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article <210820101059485769%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,
>> Professor Bubba wrote:
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>>> In article ,
>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
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>>>> In article <210820101006145602%bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid>,
>>>> Professor Bubba wrote:
>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> ,
>>>>> Your Name wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I'm not talking about blind loyalty to drivel simply because it
>>>>>> has "Star
>>>>>> Trek" in the title ... otherwise "Enterprise" and Abrams' movie
>>>>>> would have
>>>>>> been "great additions" rather than ill-fitting drivel.
>>
>>>>> I don't think there's any comparison possible between the
>>>>> Enterprise series and the reboot movie ... but I would ask you
>>>>> what you would have liked to have seen done instead of the Abrams
>>>>> film.
>>
>>>> How about something like Chris Claremont's DEBT OF HONOR
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Honor-Chris-Claremont/dp/1563890232
>>>> that has the old crew reminiscing and a story told in flashbacks
>>>> with the new cast and finishing with what's left of the old. Sets
>>>> all the groundwork for new guys to carry the torch, without
>>>> throwing out everything that has gone before. But that would have
>>>> required Orci to do research, which he isn't man or writer enough
>>>> to bother with, same as Braga.
>>
>>> A flashback movie. Not bad at all.
>>
>>> Maybe there's some comfort in this: I haven't spent a lot of time
>>> thinking about the various consequences of the change in the Trek
>>> timeline, but I've come to think that the original timeline still
>>> exists somewhere, and that this new Trek exists in some sort of
>>> pocket universe. If nothing else, this preserves cause and effect.
>>
>> It sort of depends on which version of Trek time travel you go with.
>> TOS seemed to mostly follow "one timeline, we have to fix it" -
>> otherwise, why the urgency? TNG (mostly) followed "All the Myriad
>> Ways" and everything was just a new universe and you had to find
>> your way back.
>>
>> But there are still big questions of why the Crap Trek universe was
>> quite different BEFORE Nero first appeared in the past,
>
> And how did you determine that? Nero first appears in the past while
> Kirk is still a fetus. What information do you have to indicate that
> the universe was quite different before then?
>
> much less how he
>> changed the physical laws of warp drive.
>
> You're kidding right? The physical laws of warp drive changed between
> TOS and TNG
Remember the warp Speed Limits from TNG? :-P
> and changed again between TNG and Voyager. What did Nero
> do?
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Mac Breck (KoshN)
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