From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: liam@valentijn.nu   
   Subject: Re: Define "alien"   
      
      
   "Akira Norimaki"  schreef in bericht    
   news:j25nm3017gp@news7.newsguy.com...   
   > Duggy wrote:   
   >> On Aug 12, 10:19 am, ToolPackinMama  wrote:   
   >>> OK, so, I say in TOS, "alien" means "not of our world".   
   >>> You?   
   >> So Kirk in the latest movie, not born on Earth, is by your definition   
   >> an alien?   
   >   
   > Technically, no. He was born in outer space but he's not from outer   
   > space and he was raised on earth. You may say one human is an alien if   
   > it's born and raised on another planet. I mean "Marcus Cole" is, to some   
   > degree, an "alien". I used "Marcus Cole" - from B5 - 'cause I don't have   
   > similar examples in the ST universe. I'm pretty sure there are though.   
      
      
   Alternate Kirk was born on a Federation vessel.   
   In our reality a ship carries a flag, making the ship belong to a certain    
   nation.   
   But even if he was born on a Klingon ship or so, I would still call him an    
   Earth Human, and not alien (from a Terran perspective).   
      
   But what they called alien on TOS mostly looked very human and was very    
   compatible.   
      
   Other categories:   
      
   Close to human form (also mixable with humans in at least two cases):   
      
   - The Vulcans   
   - Andorians   
   - Orions   
   - Tellarites   
   - The Klingons   
   - Bele and Loki   
   - The Apple folks (no, not Steve Jobs)   
      
      
   What would be really /totally/ alien within TOS?   
      
   - The Salt Vampire   
   - The Iron eating, people killing white cloud   
   - The Horta   
   - The Medusans   
   - The various energy species / godlike entities (dubious maybe, at one point    
   they might have been more humanoid).   
   - The original forms of Sylvia's people and the Kelvans.   
   - The pancake parasites   
   - The Tribbles   
   - The Companion (sadly not Inara or Amy, gladly not anything from EFC).   
      
   Probably forgetting half of them right now.   
      
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