From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
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   Subject: Re: Define "alien"   
      
   In article ,   
    Akira Norimaki wrote:   
      
   > Duggy wrote:   
   > >>>> OK, so, I say in TOS, "alien" means "not of our world".   
   > >>>> You?   
   > >>> So Kirk in the latest movie, not born on Earth, is by your definition   
   > >>> an alien?   
   > >> Technically, no. He was born in outer space but he's not from outer   
   > >> space and he was raised on earth. You may say one human is an alien if   
   > >> it's born and raised on another planet. I mean "Marcus Cole" is, to some   
   > >> degree, an "alien". I used "Marcus Cole" - from B5 - 'cause I don't have   
   > >> similar examples in the ST universe. I'm pretty sure there are though.   
   > >    
   > > I wouldn't call a human of terran decent alien whether they ever   
   > > visited Earth or not.   
   >    
   > If you are thinking at the usual way Sci-fi describes it, I agree, but   
   > technically that's an alien. I mean, if it helps you, think to humans   
   > that were born and raised in a planet where the environment is different   
   > enough from earth to have them evolved in a slightly different way.   
   > Think for example to the Jaffa in SG1 or, better, to the people of the   
   > Pegasus galaxy in SGA.   
      
   Did nobody in SGA ever point out that the Wraith lived there and the    
   humans were invaders?   
      
   O'Neill considered anybody born offworld 'alien' - remember when he    
   complained about the guy that replaced Daniel Jackson being an alien,    
   and he was complaining to Teal'c?   
      
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