From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: dhatunen@cox.net   
   Subject: Re: Define "alien"   
      
   On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:21:22 -0700, Jerry Friedman wrote:   
      
   > On Aug 13, 11:11-apm, Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Duggy   
   >>  wrote:   
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   >> >On Aug 13, 9:37-apm, Akira Norimaki  wrote:   
   >> >> Duggy wrote:   
   >> >> > On Aug 12, 10:19 am, ToolPackinMama    
   >> >> > wrote:   
   >> >> >> OK, so, I say in TOS, "alien" means "not of our world". You?   
   >> >> > So Kirk in the latest movie, not born on Earth, is by your   
   >> >> > definition an alien?   
   >>   
   >> >> Technically, no. He was born in outer space but he's not from outer   
   >> >> space and he was raised on earth. You may say one human is an alien   
   >> >> if it's born and raised on another planet. I mean "Marcus Cole" is,   
   >> >> to some degree, an "alien". I used "Marcus Cole" - from B5 - 'cause   
   >> >> I don't have similar examples in the ST universe. I'm pretty sure   
   >> >> there are though.   
   >>   
   >> >I wouldn't call a human of terran decent alien whether they ever   
   >> >visited Earth or not.   
   >    
   > I think most or all of the science fiction I've read uses "alien" the   
   > way you do.   
      
   Science fiction rarely has many different terran countries for someone to    
   be from so that meaning is rarely needed.   
      
      
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