From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: dhatunen@cox.net   
   Subject: Re: Define "alien"   
      
   On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:54:35 +0200, James Hogg wrote:   
      
   > Duggy wrote:   
   >> On Aug 14, 3:11 pm, Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Duggy   
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   >>>> On Aug 13, 9:37 pm, Akira Norimaki  wrote:   
   >>>>> Duggy wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Aug 12, 10:19 am, ToolPackinMama  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> OK, so, I say in TOS, "alien" means "not of our world". You?   
   >>>>>> So Kirk in the latest movie, not born on Earth, is by your   
   >>>>>> definition an alien?   
   >>>>> Technically, no. He was born in outer space but he's not from outer   
   >>>>> space and he was raised on earth. You may say one human is an alien   
   >>>>> if it's born and raised on another planet. I mean "Marcus Cole" is,   
   >>>>> to some degree, an "alien". I used "Marcus Cole" - from B5 - 'cause   
   >>>>> I don't have similar examples in the ST universe. I'm pretty sure   
   >>>>> there are though.   
   >>>> I wouldn't call a human of terran decent alien whether they ever   
   >>>> visited Earth or not.   
   >>> Illegal aliens are a problem in Australia; ask any aboriginal.   
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   >> Yes, I was at a bus stop last weekend when an old Aboriginal guy   
   >> started abusing a pair of South Pacific Island lads and calling them   
   >> invaders.   
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   > The convicts didn't ask to be transported there.   
      
   And the aborigines weren't asked if it was OK, either.   
      
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