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   alpha to All   
   Re: Those Amazing Computers!   
   10 May 11 08:11:10   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: alpha@beta.com   
   Subject: Re: Those Amazing Computers!   
      
   On Mon, 09 May 2011 21:46:47 -0400, ToolPackinMama   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 5/9/2011 5:49 PM, Ron wrote:   
   >> On May 9, 1:57 pm, ToolPackinMama  wrote:   
   >>> On 5/9/2011 2:19 AM, Ron wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Spock gets curious and asked the computer what things Leighton, Riley,   
   >>>> Kirk, and Karidian *had in common.*   
   >>>   
   >>> Where exactly does that line of dialog occur?   
   >>>   
   >>> http://www.voyager.cz/tos/epizody/13consciencekingtrans.htm   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Exactly? Start at the 20.00.00 minute mark where Spock goes to access   
   >> the computer on the bridge   
   >>   
   >> Spock: "Correlate. Check their past histories; report any items,   
   >>                any past experiences they all have in common."   
   >>   
   >> Offscreen the computer tells Spock all the gory details, which he then   
   >> goes and relates to McCoy.   
   >   
   >OK,Ron, we have no record of what the computer tells Spock, but we see    
   >Kirk asking similar questions and getting his answers, and it may be    
   >assumed that the computer eventually offered Spock the same information.   
   >   
   >This is a common device in script-writing and is not a flaw.   
   >   
   >We are not shown the process of Spock's inquiry in its entirety.  We    
   >don't know how long his search actually took, or what other questions he    
   >posed.  We were not shown what the computer said to him, but we    
   >certainly can see the results of his research, and relax and enjoy the    
   >show.   
   >   
   >Spock has access to the same information that Kirk asked for and got    
   >earlier.  To show the acquisition of the same info twice would be a    
   >horrid waste of precious TV time.   
   >   
   >This is not a plot hole.  Our imaginations are allowed to do some of the    
   >work.  This is absolutely not a writer's failure or cheat - it's a    
   >legitimate method for telling the story.  Star Trek writers, and indeed    
   >virtually all TV episode writers frequently are deliberately scant in    
   >playing out the details in order to move the story along.   
   >   
   >Plenty of information is given in the episode to show how Spock arrived    
   >at the same conclusion that Kirk did.  There is no failure on the    
   >writer's part.  All the information we need was given to us.   
   >   
   >So, in short, I disagree with you.  But it was an interesting question.   
      
   Similarly, only a deranged mind could take the history of Spock and   
   the history of Kirk and spit out a perverted theory of K/S based upon   
   her insane desire to destroy anything that is wholesome.   
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